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My Super Tech HD30 OPE oil sez bring that KRL inside this humpty bumpty
LSJR Boutique vs OTS shootout
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On the flip side - looks like a healthy amount of ester for something not driven often
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I have the same thoughts. I would have liked to have seen him test Mobil 1 Extended Performance instead of Truck & SUV, because EP is the direct competitor of Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, while Truck & SUV is fairly niche.
I doubt he will because of how taxing it is to perform testing like this, but I wish he would compare Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, Quaker State Ultimate, Castrol EDGE Extended Performance, and Valvoline Extended Protection against each other to see what the differences are between all of the upper-tier “Walmart oils”. There’s also a Supertech 20,000 mile full sun that you could throw into the test too.
The issues with Teost 33c and oils high in Mo have been covered on here before.
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LM is going to be wondering why they can’t keep Molygen on the shelf for the next few weeks
You’re not wrong
And, it confirms what some have surmised between the two oils since that video: Run shorter intervals if using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and if using AMSOIL Signature Series it has more headroom for extended drains.
I’m looking forward to the reformulation and next gen of Amsoil Signature Series! Once I’m done with trying out Valvoline Restore and Protect in my DD, I’m confident SS will be able to run 1 year repeatably given how easy my particular vehicle is on the oil and Amsoil will keep it clean (no concern of shearing out of grade for my little engine driven on the interstate)
One oil change a year and I get to go on with my life not worried if the oil I chose has the headroom or not to repeatably run it out. (TBD if the consumption gets better using Valvoline Restore and Protect, such a one of a kind OTS oil for its reversal of piston ring deposits! Let alone preventing in the first place)
Well, to be fair, in a basic $30 analysis, can we even attribute metals to current oil in use?
HPL could be liberating previous metals stuck in deposits and they get washed out while using HPL. What other oils left behind. So, the contextualization being that we attribute a used oil analysis “wear metal numbers” being because of current oil is a grey area matter anyway.
What we know is most oils have similar wear protection, but vary in how well they hold up in others areas and those other performance goals will dictate appropriate or optimal recommendations. If we are talking tracked oils and tracked purpose use vs street oils is also important.
Lake actually mentioned in the vid all wear metals were essentially the same. Which is what we have been saying here for years. A couple ppm of wear metals on a used oil analysis is just noise.
I appreciate LSJ for testing these oils.
Would’ve loved to see a euro approved oil like ESP 0w30 and also Valvoline Restore and Protect since it’s so popular right now. I think that would round this test out nicely. Maybe in the future…
Would’ve loved to see a euro approved oil like ESP 0w30 and also Valvoline Restore and Protect since it’s so popular right now. I think that would round this test out nicely. Maybe in the future…
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Why do we conclude it doesn’t make real world difference? Just because we aren’t seeing evidence ourselves doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
The way Valvoline Restore and Protect has reversed most of or completely eliminated oil consumption from piston ring deposits left by other oils (regardless of use case) in many many user reviews since it’s release (some by reputable board members on this very site); is just one major tip of the iceberg that indicate modern engines do; in fact, stress oil in a way they weren’t necessarily stressed for average vehicles maybe 20 -30 years ago.
It's amazing how common sense usage doesn't count for anything to some. Oil A produces less wear than oil B but wait! Lets argue against if it was a certified lab or not.So… Project Farm had it right all these years?
(proceeds to run after posting rage bait)
I just did my entire 2008 GMC Duramax pickup in Amsoil because I just bought it with 178k miles and didn't know the previous maintenance. Peace of mind and it honestly isn't that much more. Their gear oil is absolute top notch. To me, my use case, the absolute clear winner here is Molygen. Results speak for themselves and I use FCPEuro for it. I do 5k change intervals in my Grenadier, or before and after a big road trip like Texas to Moab and back where I'm really hammering it out there. The shorter OCI makes it a confident choice. I see the sheer numbers, doesn't really mean much here.
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Motul 300V seems to do great in low 5k OCI.
How are you determining “less wear” - because if it’s Project Farm methodology - I am not sure you achieved valid results. The one arm bandit test is meaningless, and yet, he employs that kind of testing.
I’ll trust Lake Speed Jr. a lot more than Project Farm, who destroys tools in the name of “testing” even though the destruction has little to do with tool performance and design, and more to do with gratifying his audience.
Who do you believe their tests are more accurate, Blackstone or Polaris Labs? Or are they the same in your eyes?
And yet it had the lowest engine dyno wear metal rate, along with a low temperature during those dyno runs, a high peak engine torque, and a really low turbo deposit rating.
If you have a turbocharged engine and want to push it hard, get high performance, and change your oil frequently, all of a sudden it looks like a great choice.
As I said in my other comment seeing all these oils not really shear during a 2 hour dyno run makes me curious how much real world use you’d need to match the amount of wear the KRL test produces.
RL responded years ago in regard to TEOST results. Basically, their stance was repeatability, more focused on evaluating low-phosphorus oils. So, while somewhat important, I'd say I wouldn't be concerned about TEOST results in the grand scheme of things. It's just one test and there could be explanations for poor results, not that I'm trying to make excuses for bad results....just saying.
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