Lake's been teasing the testing of Amsoil Signature Series for a while, but he went much further by testing HPL, Redline, LiquiMoly, Ravenol, Mobil 1, and Driven oils. All tests followed the same method on a dyno.
LSJR Boutique vs OTS shootout
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Lake tests multiple boutique oils vs Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and Mobil 1 Truck and SUV! This time it’s not just wear metals! Lab testing was also completed. No oil dominated every category as each had strong points. IMO Pennzoil Ultra Platinum held it’s own for the king of cost. AMSOIL Signature Series did amazing in most of the categories and possibly an overall win, HPL crushed some categories and Driven was a clear racing oil. I tried to screen shot as many graphs as I could but didn’t get them all.
The testing goes way beyond taking oil samples. He also tests oil vs water temps' delta, KRL shear, Torque, TEOST, followed up with an oil cost comparison.
In summary: "When it comes to engine oils, there isn't one best oil. All of these oils have different characteristics, and depending on what your application is, one of the chemistries here might be better for you".
In summary: "When it comes to engine oils, there isn't one best oil. All of these oils have different characteristics, and depending on what your application is, one of the chemistries here might be better for you".
Liquimoly did great! Lake mentioned some benefits of group 3.Oh Lord, you just woke @TiGeo up with those graphs(with the exception of shear, which he has noted in his data).
I posted a thread with the link to this video, also. Your post is much more comprehensive than mine, taking screenshots of the graphs. I've asked the mods to delete my post.
This by far is the best test I've seen Lake put out.
This by far is the best test I've seen Lake put out.
Merged threads, since there were already replies to both.
Sorry I must have been posting mine at the same time.
Couldn’t agree more.
I’ll pause while the “five bucks is five bucks, so get the cheapest” crowd warms up their replies.
HPL, Driven and RL would not meet the 30mg threshold for TEOST. The RL TEOST results are similar to what Amsoil found. Actually RL results are off the charts bad. Would you run that oil in a turbo? I don't know. I know the TEOST isn't everything, but it is a test.
"The maximum mg limit for a TEOST test (Thermo-Oxidation Engine Oil Simulation Test) varies by specification, but common limits are around 30-35 mg for modern API/ILSAC oils (like GF-5), while older specs might allow up to 60 mg, and newer ones push for even lower deposits (like 25 mg) to protect turbos"
"The maximum mg limit for a TEOST test (Thermo-Oxidation Engine Oil Simulation Test) varies by specification, but common limits are around 30-35 mg for modern API/ILSAC oils (like GF-5), while older specs might allow up to 60 mg, and newer ones push for even lower deposits (like 25 mg) to protect turbos"
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Shear stability too. I wonder what HPL thinks of those TEOST results as I know they have a TEOST test in their lab. Probably all the moly makes it difficult to achieve a good score on that test. RL also has a good slug of moly.
No Vll dominated as expected. Not sure why the TEOST was bad.
Where are all the Lake haters now? 3...2...1 "Yeah but......." 
Where are the lighting experts that are going to claim the light wasn't at the right angle for these tests?
What about the API licensed oils doing better than boutique in the TEOST? "Yeah but....."
Where are the lighting experts that are going to claim the light wasn't at the right angle for these tests?
What about the API licensed oils doing better than boutique in the TEOST? "Yeah but....."
So it seems if you are not using HPL for extended drain intervals, there is no reason to use HPL, as there are better options.
This was one of his better vids. He even mentioned wear metals are basically the same. Which is what he should be saying in his other ranking vids.Where are all the Lake haters now? 3...2...1 "Yeah but......."
Where are the lighting experts that are going to claim the light wasn't at the right angle for these tests?
What about the API licensed oils doing better than boutique in the TEOST? "Yeah but....."
Napa full syn no longer the boutique killer?
OP: Thanks for the link to a very interesting LSJr video.
Mods: Thanks for a combining of two threads into one in a readable manner.
Mods: Thanks for a combining of two threads into one in a readable manner.
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