LSJR Boutique vs OTS shootout
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But back to “application dictates etc” … just started my Jeep after two weeks and watching the oil pressure lag is not pleasant … These dyno tests are not great guidance for that issue …
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C’mon man - a female cat did that …
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This was a great test! My only complaint is that he didn’t get any camshaft wear numbers. He talked at the beginning about the cam being made specifically to wear out faster, so I assumed that he was going to measure that wear after each oil. 
Waiting to see how many argue for HPL's wear metal numbers.... and discredit Molygen lolJust here for the comments.
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So… Project Farm had it right all these years?
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You’re not wrongSo… Project Farm had it right all these years?
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Bottom line: There is no "Best Motor Oil".
It's application specific, depending on the car/engine and it's unique needs and demands, which depends in part on how you drive and your typical OCI. Having said that, the real winner, and one that stood out here was Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. I still feel good about running Amsoil as well.
It's application specific, depending on the car/engine and it's unique needs and demands, which depends in part on how you drive and your typical OCI. Having said that, the real winner, and one that stood out here was Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. I still feel good about running Amsoil as well.
Isn't that ironic? LOLSo… Project Farm had it right all these years?
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No, no more Redline engine oil, not after seeing this. I was done with them after the price gouging anyway.
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Bring on the oil flow drag races!
Amsoil tested RL back in 2014 and it didn't meet the min. Now whether it actually matters in the real world I don't know. It's still considered a legitimate test and Amsoil seems to value it. I have posted on some of the questionable aspects of it as has Gokhan. That's really all I can say about it.
From what I gathered in the Gale Banks Amsoil videos is that deposit chemistry is challenging and requires careful balance. So there's that too....
RL's results were extremely bad though at nearly 128mg. So I'd pass as well....
I'd be curious what RL thinks about that.
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I liked this set of tests. One thing that stood out was how brutal the KRL test really is, all of these oils showed minimal shearing after two hours on the dyno. That taps into a question I’ve had for a while, how much real world use (daily driving or even HPDE track hours) would it take to mimic the KRL results?
One thing I will criticize is the choice of oils, the only other “off the shelf” oil that Pennzoil Ultra Platinum was put up against was Mobil 1 Truck and SUV which is certainly a choice. I know in a previous video that oil was shown to be pretty stout with AN in the base oil blend but why not go with Mobil 1 ESP which he’s also shown to be shockingly shear stable, along with being cheap and easier to find than Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
If you really want to declare Pennzoil Ultra Platinum as the king of off the shelf oils you at least need Castrol and Valvoline in the mix. Mobil 1 wasn’t far off from Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, I’d wager within experimental error. Question for the crowd, what did Pennzoil Ultra Platinum do that was widely better than Mobil 1 Truck and SUV which again isn’t even their top tier oil unlike Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
If you’re focusing on the TEOST deposit results the euro formulations of Mobil 1 (which ESP would cover), Castrol, and Valvoline should be in the mix. Those are also all cheap and easy to find.
One thing I will criticize is the choice of oils, the only other “off the shelf” oil that Pennzoil Ultra Platinum was put up against was Mobil 1 Truck and SUV which is certainly a choice. I know in a previous video that oil was shown to be pretty stout with AN in the base oil blend but why not go with Mobil 1 ESP which he’s also shown to be shockingly shear stable, along with being cheap and easier to find than Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
If you really want to declare Pennzoil Ultra Platinum as the king of off the shelf oils you at least need Castrol and Valvoline in the mix. Mobil 1 wasn’t far off from Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, I’d wager within experimental error. Question for the crowd, what did Pennzoil Ultra Platinum do that was widely better than Mobil 1 Truck and SUV which again isn’t even their top tier oil unlike Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
If you’re focusing on the TEOST deposit results the euro formulations of Mobil 1 (which ESP would cover), Castrol, and Valvoline should be in the mix. Those are also all cheap and easy to find.
Depends on the application, though, doesn’t it?
For a regular driver in a regular street car, changing the oil on time, yeah, those are two great picks.
I thought the results were interesting, particularly this comment: “Modern oils will protect your flat tappet cam”.
So very many posts on BITOG about “needing Zinc” in a certain PPM for flat tappet cams.
Evidently, not true.
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Interesting testing, not sure it'll change anything that I'm doing, though. In the end, I wonder how much real world difference any of this makes for most of our cars. I'd wager not much, of course, that isn't why we are here, I guess. I was disappointed with RL's showing, though.
I wouldn’t be disappointed with Red Line’s showing - it’s not made for a street car with the oil changed at regular intervals, is it?
Just because something is a “racing” product, doesn’t mean that it is better for everyday use.
Just because something is a “racing” product, doesn’t mean that it is better for everyday use.
We absolutely know race oils make terrible street oils.
I saw this in 2006! I ran racing 5W-20 in our Honda Ody. Filthy!
I saw this in 2006! I ran racing 5W-20 in our Honda Ody. Filthy!
Definitely need to see how this looks with Valovoline Restore and Protect, Mobil 1 Extended Performance/ESP, and Castrol Edge included. Throw in Supertech for good measure.
Allow me to add, that in a recent thread on boutique oils, I explained why I chose the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, and the AMSOIL Signature Series, for two different, street driven cars that had the oil changed at regular intervals.
The results of this set of tests is comforting in that it supports those oil choices, made many years ago.
The results of this set of tests is comforting in that it supports those oil choices, made many years ago.
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