I tried it in my 150,000 mile GM 4.3 V6 looking to improve the rear main seal leak. It helped, but not for long. Although with a 3000 mile per year duty cycle, probably not a good test.
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"This Stuff" could be one of the several motor oils they make, one of the several oil additives they make, the engine flush, or one of the many other products.
Are you referring to their motor oil? If so, which one(s)?
On of my Co-workers tried the Liqui Moly Additve to cure a leaking engine.
He was a little bit desperate because the car failed the safety inspection an he was thight on money. So, the poor guy used to much. Two cans.
Two days later, the Rubber gasket of the oil fill cap was so swollen up that he had a hard time to close it again.
The gasket was swollen up 50% and soft again like a gummibear. It works on rubber gaskets, for sure.
He was a little bit desperate because the car failed the safety inspection an he was thight on money. So, the poor guy used to much. Two cans.
Two days later, the Rubber gasket of the oil fill cap was so swollen up that he had a hard time to close it again.
The gasket was swollen up 50% and soft again like a gummibear. It works on rubber gaskets, for sure.
Yep, there is a eternal ongoing discussion in the Honda S2000 Community wich viscoisity is the right one for the engine. In my opinion, in the case of the S2000 the engineers nailed it with their -30 or -40 reccomedation.
But for sure, in my opinion the S2000 Engine is not Autobahn safe. The Piston speed is just to high. I dont try to press the car to the limit, beside a occasional short sprint for a few minutes. For the most time i try to to keep it at max. 6.000 RPM at the Autobahn. But thast not a problem, because thats around 180 Km/h and the the car is desigend for different roads where it creates much more fun.
LM is here on par or just a little bit cheaper compared to Castrol and Mobil1. Shell is usually the cheapest of the big brands, cheaper then LM.
Total, Elf and Fuchs are very cheap. It´s legit and understandable to say that the import prices of LM in the US are to high. It´s a tad unfair to say that LM oils are not quality products.
By the way, Redline Oil cost 20,-€ or 24 US$ per Quart here in germany.
LM is here on par or just a little bit cheaper compared to Castrol and Mobil1. Shell is usually the cheapest of the big brands, cheaper then LM.
Total, Elf and Fuchs are very cheap. It´s legit and understandable to say that the import prices of LM in the US are to high. It´s a tad unfair to say that LM oils are not quality products.
By the way, Redline Oil cost 20,-€ or 24 US$ per Quart here in germany.
Ok but you didn't answer my question... how much is a 1L bottle and 5L jug of LM? Based on some quick googling, I found the 1L bottles to be anywhere from 9 to 11 euros and the 5L jugs to be anywhere from 40 to 50 euros... In Canada, the price for LM is about 45-50 CAD per 5L jug... so if one doesn't take into account the currency exchange, LM is priced the same here in Canada as in Germany.
So if that's the case, well then you guys in Germany are getting even more ripped off then us here, considering LM is home grown for you, just goes to show how overpriced it is for an average oil
Yea at 12-15 euros a 5L jug, i'd be buying LM all day... only problem is 10W-40 isn't a very common weight here in North America, at least in Canada I haven't seen any of the resellers stocking it because it gets fairly cold up here. Also the 10W-40 is a semi-synthetic, so that should also make a difference in price (not that the 5W-40 are full synthetic either, at least in North America from what i've been reading)
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Its hard to answer your question, we pay up to 30,-€ / quart if you get you car serviced at the dealer under warranty or if you need to buy oil on gas station at mindnight. Some internet prices are lower, but the prices you have googled are the average ones, yes.
We dont have the feeling to get ripped off, becasue these are the average oil Prices here in germany.
A 5 liter jug of Mobil 1 0w-40 is up to 70,-€ here in DIY stores. Thats 83 US$ or 108 Canadian $. But nobody buy oil there...
Of course, some german internet stores have very competetive prices. https://www.ato24.de/en/
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I have used it before after it was recommended by so many people that I know. Personally I just buy the other brands I have always used like Castrol I don’t feel like the Liqui Moly is worth the extra money it is good oil though and I have never had any problems. I do like their fuel additive though in my opinion it works really good and only $8 for it is not bad.
That's really it isn't it? If it all basically does the same thing within the approval, then why spend more? I get it. I've been using it in my car for almost 2 years and it's worked great, no consumption, good (whatever that means) UOAs, but I could have gotten the same results with Castrol/Mobil/whatever. Some people like Fruit Loops, some like Fruity Os.....
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Yes I agree I always just buy the good stuff I know people that swear by the Liqui Moly but honestly I haven’t seen any difference in that vs the Castrol and Valvoline that i use. The guy at the auto parts store even tried to throw in a store brand filter at half off if I bought it and I told him no thanks because I could get a name brand filter and go to Walmart and get the oil.
Are there high taxes on oil in Germany? Seems exaggerated given that we can basically buy LM (in Canada) for almost half the price of what it costs in Germany and LM is made there...
On the one hand this ato24 is in a tight liaison with Ravenol / Deutsche Ölwerke Lubmin, on the other hand Ravenol like Liqui Moly both are in a bit of a funny inverse price war: A premium and their USVO-label for Ravenol fans, a premium and fluorescent dyes and lots of centerfolds for Liqui Moly buyers. So, Liqui Moly basically would have to be subtracted from the total before comparing prices across the atlantic, for a few prominent and less prominent reasons, I guess. They'll probably start telling us in fluorescent german centerfolds how much we like them sometime soon, but are too irregular a choice really to base much comparison across the atlantic on their figures whatsoever.
Oils in general are still affordable in D, 19% Mehrwertsteuer usually included (MwSt. currently reduced to 16% for the rest of the year because of Corona).
There are lots of solid alternatives around and no PQIA alerts warning of really funny alternatives on too many shelves. Approved LongLife oils of course ain't cheap, but then our online oil club with its crazy truther general for prime mod under the chemtrails... ain't about to steer the whole country into quarterlife OCI yet.
For 20 litres of Rimula LME Plus (your Rotella Multi Vehicle) you'd see an MSRP of 245€, but the 100€ / 20l are actually a slight hike, I think it had been ~105€ incl. shipping and 19% MwSt. last year. https://www.kreissler24.de/shell-rimula-r6-lme-plus-5w-30-20-l-3677-vds4-5.html
Most independent labels would cover most any rational needs, there's much less fixation on some inevitable big three or four. Even though Liqui Moly is trying to replace about as much with all its embarrassing conferred might. And its own Meguin Megol, just to be sure...
Oils in general are still affordable in D, 19% Mehrwertsteuer usually included (MwSt. currently reduced to 16% for the rest of the year because of Corona).
There are lots of solid alternatives around and no PQIA alerts warning of really funny alternatives on too many shelves. Approved LongLife oils of course ain't cheap, but then our online oil club with its crazy truther general for prime mod under the chemtrails... ain't about to steer the whole country into quarterlife OCI yet.
For 20 litres of Rimula LME Plus (your Rotella Multi Vehicle) you'd see an MSRP of 245€, but the 100€ / 20l are actually a slight hike, I think it had been ~105€ incl. shipping and 19% MwSt. last year. https://www.kreissler24.de/shell-rimula-r6-lme-plus-5w-30-20-l-3677-vds4-5.html
Most independent labels would cover most any rational needs, there's much less fixation on some inevitable big three or four. Even though Liqui Moly is trying to replace about as much with all its embarrassing conferred might. And its own Meguin Megol, just to be sure...
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Made my Day.
But, he also try to steer people into 10w- oil just because of the better, more robust base oil. Viscosity improvers are to avoid at all cost. Cold start wear dont exist, according to him and all his beloved russian "Flip the bottle with the frozen oil" videos on Youtube. Oh, and dont forgett, the big oil companys all produce crap. All the small, unknown oil companys try hard to improve their products, therefore makes them a much better choice. Like his much beloved chinese tyre companys. Ling -Long beat Michelin all day, for sure.It all certainly got better as soon as this Gulf Oil webshop began selling some oil. I remember times when the club turned towards Gulf Oil but strictly revolved around devotionals only as all oil seemed to be with the majors or so...
Over here with just no Gulf and Kroon et al. ever it's also not entirely convincing rotation either. In principle even a brand with it's name's only letter being a capital Q can be interesting
(They seemed to have 2T oils with extra PIB...)
Over here with just no Gulf and Kroon et al. ever it's also not entirely convincing rotation either. In principle even a brand with it's name's only letter being a capital Q can be interesting
(They seemed to have 2T oils with extra PIB...)Who is this and what secret club? Sounds entertaining!Made my Day.
Well, first of all, my Q meant Q8 oils!
Second, we'd probably risk it all if we ever mentioned this general of quite some signature on the interweb.
But third, we probably absolutely have to link this other questionable club by now in this Liqui Moly thread over here, so, this could be such a club if you really needed to look at one: https://oil-club.de/index.php?thread/3715-gulf-racing-tradition-motorsport-und-mehr/
Second, we'd probably risk it all if we ever mentioned this general of quite some signature on the interweb.
But third, we probably absolutely have to link this other questionable club by now in this Liqui Moly thread over here, so, this could be such a club if you really needed to look at one: https://oil-club.de/index.php?thread/3715-gulf-racing-tradition-motorsport-und-mehr/
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Does Liquid Moly offer any "must have" products that no one else offers, or anything that otherwise can't be obtained somewhere else? Is there any compelling reason why the price premium is worth buying their products?
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