I bought some, just for fun. I want to see if my mpg will change (some people say theirs did)i think i will use it, just for fun
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I was thinking about that too, also i have heard positive reviews about the product. So why not
It certainly won't hurt anything if you want to try it. I've run it my 3 VWs (not my son's older GTI) multiple times.i think i will use it, just for fun
If you do, you need to take v. careful longer term before and after mpg readings and even then, so many variables it's hard to pick up on slight changes in your mpgs that are real.
Even so there’s no way to actually isolate the singular variable of the additive in everyday driving. No way, no how.
No; it's got 135K miles and is 16 yrs old. At this point, I'd say it's too late for doing that.
It may have scoring; that's something that I've thought about. I'm not ruling it out. However, the car hasn't 'lived' in cold climate (that seems to be the main cause of cylinder scoring). The original owner lived in Pasadena. I brought it to Tucson for a year, then Las Vegas for 8 years. It currently resides in Orlando.
I bought the car w/90K miles and it's possible the previous owner used the factory recommended oil change cycle (24mo/24K miles) which would leave contaminants in the oil, leading to scoring. I change the oil every 3K miles which is a little less than twice a year.
There are no visible oil leaks; I park the car in the same spot in my garage (just as I did in Vegas and Tucson) and I've never had any oil stains on the garage floor.
I've read the concerns about separation of Ceratec from oil, but I usually fly 4 day trips (I'm a pilot) so I leave the car parked at the airport for 4 days at a time approx 4 times a month. When I changed the oil, I didn't see any separation.
As far as fuel mileage, I have no idea if it made a difference. Since I drive the car aggressively at times and gently other times, I'm sure my fuel mileage varies quite a bit. I know I get a bit more than 20 MPG, but that's as far as I've measured mileage.
My personal anecdotal experience, it works pretty well. I use it every few oil changes.
Not sure if this has been posted but:
https://www.liqui-moly.com/fileadmi...a_Tec_Additive_EN_1802_view_M014152_53095.pdf
Formed in 1989, APL is a neutral and independent, internationally re- nowned development service provider, working for a worldwide client base from the automobile, oil and additives industries. The company is specialized in the mechanics of engine and drive trains and their oper- ating supplies. On nearly 145 state of the art engine and component test rigs, more than 700 employees apply the latest measurement technology.
Proven efficiency
Test arrangement with two inter- locking gear wheels.
LIQUI MOLY products stand for reliability, efficiency and for top quality – a per- formance promise which an independent institute, renowned in the best sense of the word, should put to the test: The Automobil-Prüftechnik-Landau GmbH (APL) tested Cera Tec.
What was tested
The APL experts determined the relative scuffing load capacity of lubrication oils. Between the edges of the teeth, rolling off and sliding occur at the same time. Due to unfavorable operating conditions the lubricant film can break down be- tween the tooth edges. This leads to short-term local fusion and disintegration of the edges, so-called scuffing, which causes damage to the smooth surface of the teeth edges. Possible consequences: higher engine and transmission noise until failure of the gear wheels occurs.
Test sequence
On the vehicle distortion test bench the test oil was mixed with 6 per cent Cera Tec. With each test sequence the weight, and thereby the force level, on the sensitive transmission gear wheels was increased. The aim of the experiment
is to reach the damage force level. This level is reached when the sum of all damage caused to the teeth of the gear wheels is more than 20 millimeters.
The test is then ended. The reference oil came up to damage force level 4; the oil mixed with Cera Tec reached as far as level 9, hence to more than double the level. «Cera Tec markedly increases the power reserve, which confirms the an- ti-wear protection by the fine ceramic particles,» is how Dipl.-Ing. Peter Kunz, who supervised the test, summarizes the results. Kunz’s initial skepticism gave way: After the tests I was amazed. The product has made everything, and I really mean everything, better.»
Just the demand for APL’s expertise alone has been unusual. «LIQUI MOLY is the first company in the after-sales market that has been prepared to undergo volun- tary tests», said Kunz. He is responsible for the testing of lubricants and fuels.
In short: Cera Tec reduces the amount of friction and thereby the wear. This in turn benefits the engine, which is under less load. This can result in a lower susceptibility to repair and longer service life.
Not sure if this has been posted but:
https://www.liqui-moly.com/fileadmi...a_Tec_Additive_EN_1802_view_M014152_53095.pdf
Formed in 1989, APL is a neutral and independent, internationally re- nowned development service provider, working for a worldwide client base from the automobile, oil and additives industries. The company is specialized in the mechanics of engine and drive trains and their oper- ating supplies. On nearly 145 state of the art engine and component test rigs, more than 700 employees apply the latest measurement technology.
Proven efficiency
Test arrangement with two inter- locking gear wheels.
LIQUI MOLY products stand for reliability, efficiency and for top quality – a per- formance promise which an independent institute, renowned in the best sense of the word, should put to the test: The Automobil-Prüftechnik-Landau GmbH (APL) tested Cera Tec.
What was tested
The APL experts determined the relative scuffing load capacity of lubrication oils. Between the edges of the teeth, rolling off and sliding occur at the same time. Due to unfavorable operating conditions the lubricant film can break down be- tween the tooth edges. This leads to short-term local fusion and disintegration of the edges, so-called scuffing, which causes damage to the smooth surface of the teeth edges. Possible consequences: higher engine and transmission noise until failure of the gear wheels occurs.
Test sequence
On the vehicle distortion test bench the test oil was mixed with 6 per cent Cera Tec. With each test sequence the weight, and thereby the force level, on the sensitive transmission gear wheels was increased. The aim of the experiment
is to reach the damage force level. This level is reached when the sum of all damage caused to the teeth of the gear wheels is more than 20 millimeters.
The test is then ended. The reference oil came up to damage force level 4; the oil mixed with Cera Tec reached as far as level 9, hence to more than double the level. «Cera Tec markedly increases the power reserve, which confirms the an- ti-wear protection by the fine ceramic particles,» is how Dipl.-Ing. Peter Kunz, who supervised the test, summarizes the results. Kunz’s initial skepticism gave way: After the tests I was amazed. The product has made everything, and I really mean everything, better.»
Just the demand for APL’s expertise alone has been unusual. «LIQUI MOLY is the first company in the after-sales market that has been prepared to undergo volun- tary tests», said Kunz. He is responsible for the testing of lubricants and fuels.
In short: Cera Tec reduces the amount of friction and thereby the wear. This in turn benefits the engine, which is under less load. This can result in a lower susceptibility to repair and longer service life.
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