It happened one time...right?
Letting Dealer do Air Filter change?
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What about something to soften up the rubber/neoprene but not damage it?
I don't know where where is but where I'm at the dealer will spit in your eye and act surprised if you complain and deny it.
Hit the rubber with silicone spray then after a couple days change the filter after driving and warming the engine up.
Buy one to have on hand as a spare. They all tend to crack right at the throttle body. Probably because you have to wrench them into a pretzel to get them off.
My almost 300,000 mile Accord is on number 3. Southern heat and 10 air filter replacements will do that.
My almost 300,000 mile Accord is on number 3. Southern heat and 10 air filter replacements will do that.
I had a VW Passat that was taken to the dealer several times for warranty work. Or I changed the oil. I owned it since new.
When I was going to sell the car it needed a sensor replaced. Forget the details. Part of the sensor housing was broken and had been repaired with household silicone caulk.
I am pretty sure the dealer broke the sensor housing when replacing the head and fixed it with household silicone caulk. No other way possible.
So dealers do screw up.
When I was going to sell the car it needed a sensor replaced. Forget the details. Part of the sensor housing was broken and had been repaired with household silicone caulk.
I am pretty sure the dealer broke the sensor housing when replacing the head and fixed it with household silicone caulk. No other way possible.
So dealers do screw up.
Many years ago I had the dealer replace a headlight on my Mazda 3. They did the headlight but broke some plastic part in the process. I asked them to replace the part but they just denied breaking it. I left the dealer as I couldn't prove they broke the part even though I knew they did.
In my mind a 'screw up' is a mistake- that 'repair' was no mistake.
Good thing you tackled it instead of letting the dealer touch it. Many dealer screwups are pushed back to the customer anyways, so it’s not really as “safe” as some like to think.
As far as the change itself, I would’ve loosened the clamp from the throttle body and gotten the unit off as a whole. A lot of times it’s much easier than wrestling with the housing and this setup looks to be the case as well.
I would just buy a new boot and be done with it(they're cheap online). They're almost always cracked and split by this age on these cars anyway
Just as follow up, buttoned it all up about an hour ago with new Honda OEM AF from dealer. Heating the air tube again, did help quite a bit I think, more hose flexibilty. Again, nothing compromised about the OE tube, not something 'I' would replace as preventative measure. My goal was to replace AF with as little changes/touches to other system parts as possible. With some heat to the tube, mission accomplished. Below is pic of the air intake tube, a little dusty but functional. One thing I found, to hold the top of air box up as shown to install, the back corner of the box must rest on the battery hold down cross bar end. If you look closely, you can see it entry #9 pic from a then much newer Accord.
Air filter is fine.
Glad to see that you have it all put back together without any issues.
When working with plastic parts, temperature definitely is a factor on flexibility. To understand the difference, one hot day this summer, you may want to open up the air box, just to see how much easier it is. You may be surprised in the difference.
When working with plastic parts, temperature definitely is a factor on flexibility. To understand the difference, one hot day this summer, you may want to open up the air box, just to see how much easier it is. You may be surprised in the difference.
If the boot cracks you let unfiltered air in. Crack could be hairline. Unnoticeable until you do a UOA and see high silicon.
Spend money on new boot rather than dealer labor.
The guys at the dealer doing filter changes or oil changes probably don't shave yet. But they gotta start somewhere.
Spend money on new boot rather than dealer labor.
The guys at the dealer doing filter changes or oil changes probably don't shave yet. But they gotta start somewhere.
I had to replace ours on a '12 Civic and I bought an OEM part. It was less than $30.
I have an '07 Accord V6. I bend the intake hose back if it's willing, and take the whole thing off if it's being difficult.
I've done the job 3 or 4 times and my approach varies. The degree of cooperation might be temperature dependent, haven't really paid attention to that.
I still use the original part and there are no cracks in it either.
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This reminds me of the time I bought an air filter at the dealer for my 06 Saturn Ion Redline. I had already had some recall work done, so they were nice enough to offer to 'toss it on for me'. The car was already outside in a spot, so a mechanic came out with a flat screw driver and thought he'd be 5 mins changing my air filter.
No deal.... the air filter on a Saturn Ion Redline is BURIED under hoses just behind the S/C, and it's a big filter, a 1 foot long conical affair, held in by 3 screws, 2 of which are blind and likely rounded being a 15+ year old GM product.
That mechanic tried for over 10 mins in the blazing sun and gave up, saying that I would have to book it in for at least a half hour labor to change the air filter.
I changed that air filter at home with a cold beer, sure it took me an hour but I got it done and saved at least $50....
No deal.... the air filter on a Saturn Ion Redline is BURIED under hoses just behind the S/C, and it's a big filter, a 1 foot long conical affair, held in by 3 screws, 2 of which are blind and likely rounded being a 15+ year old GM product.
That mechanic tried for over 10 mins in the blazing sun and gave up, saying that I would have to book it in for at least a half hour labor to change the air filter.
I changed that air filter at home with a cold beer, sure it took me an hour but I got it done and saved at least $50....
The cabin air filter service on my folk's 98 Accord LX is .... ridiculous.
You assume that they will tell you they broke it.
My Toyota dealer did a recall on the rear bumper.
Removed 8 bolts to do the job.
Put 6 bolts back.
Noticed it a month later checking the spare tire. The big empty holes were pretty obvious.
So, either:
1. They didn’t KNOW they did such a lousy job.
2. They elected not to tell me.
