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Hope everyone considering this has fire alarms, fire suppression, training … whatever makes sense
It looks like electric vehicles are going to be shoved down our throats
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A Tesla does not burn like the average kitchen fire …
The new entries to EV will have to learn what Tesla has on this subject
This one burned twice !
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...ire-2-months-after-it-burned-down-133878.html
I will grant that a car is a fire hazard. But then again, so is a gas powered ICE. My garage has 5 to 36 gallons of gas between two cars, and two auto batteries; my basement has up to 500 gallons of fuel oil, and finally I have a 50 gallon propane sitting right next to my house.
Speaking of LiOn batteries, like many, I now have a a number of these batteries floating around the house, in addition to the ones in my laptops, iDevices, etc. Various extension cords, power strips with questionable MOV's, who knows what the kids have hid here and there.
Fire hazards seem to be getting worse not better.
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You are trying to make this into an argument when my intent is fire safety when charging an EV that’s just inches from your family and your largest asset.
If you want to start charging an EV in your garage with no safety plan … go for it …
What you and I consider Tesla to be does not matter; the market considers Tesla a luxury car.
There have been many assembly complaints; our car is perfect.
The initial Model Y deliveries had tons of complaints; my understanding is they have improved.
I understand I live in a tech bubble. I am curious about other's experiences.
FYI, we used to live in Melbourne in the middle 1960's when my Dad worked at Radiation.
What a wonderful place to grow up! I hope to see it again. Melbourne Beach...
A dear friend moved back to Frostproof; Vernon died in an industrial accident. A great guy...
Speaking of which, I can't even count the number of times I've forgotten to charge my cell phone at night and the charger is right there on the nightstand beside my bed. Imagine waking up in the morning and finding out you forgot to plug in your EV.
"Uh oh, I guess I'm not going to work today. Too bad, I really needed money to buy food...."
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Not much different that forgetting to fill up at a gas station before a trip. Who says you have to run the battery down to zero every night before charging.
That 60 amp breaker on #6 wire should be a 50 though. Pretty sure of that. Maybe your load is over 50 on each leg though, and the wire is rated for the temp. It would bug me though to run too close to the highest rating. Over 50 amps on each leg is a lot more than a typical charger I believe.
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Who said the battery was zero? What if you just dont have enough charge to travel the mileage that you need? Not everyone lives 2 miles away from work.
If I forgot to gas up before coming home, I probably still would have 1/3 of a gallon next morning to make it 10 miles to the nearest gas station.
I've been driving for almost 30 years and can say that I have never ever run out of gas to the point that the vehicle stalled . I've owned a cellphone for about 25 years and have forgotten to charge it (when I really needed it the most) countless of times. With a cell phone, at least I could use it while plugged in. I wonder how that would work for an EV..? Maybe it can tow one of these along... (a mobile power generator)
But I understand that not everyone is as absent-minded as me....
Maybe an auto dock would help. Something like on a roomba. You drive into it in your garage and automatic hook-up and charging. But then again, maybe someone will complain that they bought a luxury EV and not a vacuum cleaner.
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This is what Tesla recommends. The electrician did a nice job.
The Tesla Wall Connector can pull 50a if the car can use that much.
Typical electric oven is 50 amps. Typical new home construction is 200 amps on a single family. In a condo or older home, you'd 100 amps. Normally the electric company will upgrade your service from 100 to 200 for free, but you have to pay for the thicker wires and new panels so usually a few thousand.
As for electrical capacity, peak demand is at about 2-3pm in the afternoon during the summer when it's hottest and all the ACs are in use. Off peak is night time so while you can't charge all those EV during the day, there should be excess capacity at night to charge them, just have to set up smart meters which they're already doing.
Right! 30A on one branch is "a lot" but dwarfed by what is considered "normal" already in a house. Therefore... it's not really "a lot".
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IMO EV's are just one piece of the puzzle. They might not work for everyone, but so far, no one vehicle type nor technology has.
Tesla chargers have timers to start time settings. The cars are very configurable.
I imagine most EVs can do the same. Dunno for sure.
Well for New England you can just go check the demands and capacity factors. Looks like a low of around 11 gigawatts at night to a high of 17 gigawatts during the day with a max of 22 gigawatts now. During the winter they typically do maintenance when demand is low so some plants are offline, looks like they could have a max of 30 gigawatts, but they probably never really hit that as you always have some plants offline for whatever reason.
https://www.iso-ne.com/
Indeed. I mostly charge my Outlander PHEV at 1am unless I know I need a full charge before then. My Volt had similar scheduling options. I just don't have the fancy app for my phone like you Tesla guys have.
Not everyone can charge at home
Not everyone is in a large urban center
Expansion takes time.
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