Is the era of "Ricers" over?

[ls1mike]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: jigen
My girlfriend has a 2013 Civic Si. Every time I take her car out I will get thrown revs, brake checked and cut off. It's crazy. When I had my Z28 this type of driver wouldnt even look at me.


Really??

I had this car (in sig) at the height of the F&F/ricer movement, and EVERY little ricetard would rev their weed wackers to the moon when they pulled next to me (or even behind me in a single lane scenario) at a light.

I guess they were thinking that their extra 200+ hp from their stickers, flatulence can, and triple-decker wing on an anemic, NOT open tracked/set up for handling, FWD import was going to take down the big, bad, domestic V-8.

No doubt. It really started getting old. Glad it is on the way out.

 

[FL_Rob]

It's still alive and well down here.These kids have either no money to do the car up right(economy)or are barely capable of the mechanical aptitude required to do the whole project and have it finished properly.
These guys should know that if the project cant be done right to the very end ..just keep it stock.

I cant wait till it goes away.Take the Bass(not the fish)cars with them.

 

[nleksan]

In the Euro "scene", it's gotten to where E46 BMW's, B5 A/S4's, and the like areppriced to where there's been a huge influx of 16-17yo kids getting the cars. It's the reason I am barely active on any of the forums I used to be a big time regular at.

The new fad is "stance", which is even worse than rice because you have people who can'tdrive in tthe first place, taking cars and throwing garbage junk coilovers on them, fitting wheels wider than even rolled and pulled fenders support, running stupid tire sizes (215's on 19x10's? Yup!), and then pushing more than neg 6 degrees camber (or way more). Then they drive like this!
I have seen control arms snap, the tires are toast in 2-3k miles, and you simply cannot control a vehicle like that verywwell in ideal conditions, and once things go bad or sideways, you just have to sit and watch the impending crash.

 

[Olas]

Stance has always been a requirement in the Euro scene, wether it's low with wide BBS and stretched tyres or the more purposeful 'track stance'..

Since the Fast and Furious, half of those ricers got diesel pickups, the rest of them bought any old normal car and some cheap coilovers off ebay along with stickers for the front and rear windows, camber shims and ill-fitting wheels.

Seems they took one of the more distinctive aspects of our scene, became fully obsessed with that one trait, and turned it into a horrible caricature of itself..

Consequently, anyone with a tastefully modified, practical and safe 'euro' car has now been tarred with the brush of 'hellaflush'. which is annoying.
But in a year or two the next fad will come along and all the sheep will follow

 

[PF52]

The diesel truck fad hasn't caught on here, at least not yet. Kids have an ample supply of hand-me-down SUVs to drive. Most are pretty nice. C'mon, who wouldn't want a clean one-owner Volvo, BMW or Acura SUV?

Sure, diesel trucks exist around here, but they're mostly driven by adults. Mostly guys on their way to their jobs running big earthmoving equipment or driving a concrete truck.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Originally Posted By: ls1mike
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: jigen
My girlfriend has a 2013 Civic Si. Every time I take her car out I will get thrown revs, brake checked and cut off. It's crazy. When I had my Z28 this type of driver wouldnt even look at me.


Really??

I had this car (in sig) at the height of the F&F/ricer movement, and EVERY little ricetard would rev their weed wackers to the moon when they pulled next to me (or even behind me in a single lane scenario) at a light.

I guess they were thinking that their extra 200+ hp from their stickers, flatulence can, and triple-decker wing on an anemic, NOT open tracked/set up for handling, FWD import was going to take down the big, bad, domestic V-8.

No doubt. It really started getting old. Glad it is on the way out.


I had one do that to me at a stoplight once when I was in the Taurus ... not sure what he was expecting.

I threw a rev back at the kid but had no intention of taking off quick or engaging. "Street racing", if it can be considered that with such slow vehicles, is stupid.

The light turned green and he tried to dump the clutch and launch it - the car bucked twice and stalled.

 

[hattaresguy]

Originally Posted By: Olas
So for clarification, it's a combination of things?

For example -

Guy spends $50,000 building a racecar. Everything is safe, functional, well thought out, and there are no shortcuts taken in the build.
Would a lurid paintjob and a stupid exhaust make this a 'ricer' even though it is a capable track machine?
(Most Brits would say 'if you can build a weapon like that, you can style it however you want!)

Or do you need to have something that looks like it belongs in The fast And The Furious, but drives like it belongs at a retirement home to qualify as 'Rice'
(Brits call it 'All show, no go')



Rice is an old term in the US I guess it has not traveled across the pond yet!

It describes modified vehicles that are either poorly done, or are all show and no go. IE the illusion of speed and power is more important than actual power.

Pretty much the total opposite of what you guys call Q ships!

It started in the 90's with kids chopping Honda Civic springs and putting loud mufflers on them. Now it seems to have migrated to diesel trucks...

 

[hattaresguy]

Originally Posted By: nleksan
In the Euro "scene", it's gotten to where E46 BMW's, B5 A/S4's, and the like areppriced to where there's been a huge influx of 16-17yo kids getting the cars. It's the reason I am barely active on any of the forums I used to be a big time regular at.

The new fad is "stance", which is even worse than rice because you have people who can'tdrive in tthe first place, taking cars and throwing garbage junk coilovers on them, fitting wheels wider than even rolled and pulled fenders support, running stupid tire sizes (215's on 19x10's? Yup!), and then pushing more than neg 6 degrees camber (or way more). Then they drive like this!
I have seen control arms snap, the tires are toast in 2-3k miles, and you simply cannot control a vehicle like that verywwell in ideal conditions, and once things go bad or sideways, you just have to sit and watch the impending crash.


I think it started in Japan, as the "VIP" look.

It seems like a really stupid thing to do to a good vehicle. Than you have the small subset that likes the trashed look whatever its called.

 

[jeepman3071]

I'll take a riced out car over the new "diesel ricers" any day. I see coal rollers every day when I drive to work. If there is a loud honda civic next to me, I can roll up my window and ignore it. The diesel guys seem to be much more dangerous since they are willing to do the same stupid stunts the ricers did in a 10,000 lb lifted pickup. The lifted ones have no problem cutting people off, driving over medians, and trying to intimidate people.

I've never seen a ricer cloud up an entire intersection like I have the diesel guys. The ricers were usually college kids or kids with barely enough money to buy a car. The diesel ricers have ignorant parents who are loaded and will give them anything they want. There is a diesel ricer down the road with a 6.4 Super Duty. He must be on his 5th set of tires and 3rd engine in one year. Every time he leaves his driveway he smokes off his tires and revs the engine to the moon, even if its 11:30 at night.

 

[cutter]

There is a large Puerto Rican (and other hispanic) population 1 mile north where I live. There is a main street in front of my apartment that acts as the main road from the BF bridge from Jersey and center city to that area. As far as I can tell, riced out civics are very common, at least in this situation.

 

[Spazdog]

Originally Posted By: Olas
I used to hear the term 'rice' and think it was a mild form of racism - ie. anyone who drives a Japanese car is an idiot..

But after reading this thread I'm starting to think the term is used to describe distastefully modified vehicles regardless of where they come from.

So, if you'll excuse another dumb question from the Brit on the forum..

Is it possible to 'rice' a Mustang? Camaro? or would there be a different name given to people who do 'rice' type modifications to US built cars?


I call people who "rice" out German cars "Spätzlers"

BMWs with 205 wide Chinese tire stretched over 8" wide wheels. Cambered out Jettas. Ghetto bling wheeled Mercedes Benzes.

The Teutonophiles will deny the existence of anything less than tasteful on fine German automobiles, oh but they are out there.

 

[artificialist]

Hard to tell who is real and who isn't. In the USA, we had a car called the Nissan 240SX, which was basically a Nissan Silvia with an engine shared with the Nissan Hardbody truck. Some people swap the engine that should have been there (SR20DET) while having a bunch of bling added. Those cars have the power to back up the appearence.

One thing is common among tuners. If they add a turbo to their NA engine, or swap engines, they will stuff the biggest intercooler they can fit in front of the condenser and radiator.

 

[SHOZ]

My progression in ICs.

 

[dailydriver]

Originally Posted By: artificialist
Hard to tell who is real and who isn't. In the USA, we had a car called the Nissan 240SX, which was basically a Nissan Silvia with an engine shared with the Nissan Hardbody truck. Some people swap the engine that should have been there (SR20DET) while having a bunch of bling added. Those cars have the power to back up the appearence.


...and some with those 'Koukis' have totally given up on the DETs and just stuffed an NA you know what under the hood.

 

[sciphi]

That, and 95% of the 1990's Hondas that fueled the "ricer" trend have rotted away.

 

[ls1mike]

Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Hard to tell who is real and who isn't. In the USA, we had a car called the Nissan 240SX, which was basically a Nissan Silvia with an engine shared with the Nissan Hardbody truck. Some people swap the engine that should have been there (SR20DET) while having a bunch of bling added. Those cars have the power to back up the appearence.


...and some with those 'Koukis' have totally given up on the DETs and just stuffed an NA you know what under the hood.

Probably even more of those running around then the turbo ones now.

 

[asand1]

Rice =
Race
Inspired
COSMETIC
Enhancements.
An 11.50 awd colt is a race car. A stock civic with wing, muffler, and stickers is rice.

If youve ever heard the old addage "all show and no go", imagine someone trying to look and sound fast while being stock or even handicapped (cut springs).

 

[sciphi]

I'd prefer to look/sound stock while going fast.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: sciphi
I'd prefer to look/sound stock while going fast.


This is me. My car in my sig is as quiet as a mouse (a large one) until you get into it.

I have been known to spend a LOT of money on quiet exhaust for my cars, even with big HP numbers.

A 'sleeper' is always cooler than a noisy hot rod...

 

[Peted]

Originally Posted By: jeepman3071


I've never seen a ricer cloud up an entire intersection like I have the diesel guys. The ricers were usually college kids or kids with barely enough money to buy a car. The diesel ricers have ignorant parents who are loaded and will give them anything they want. There is a diesel ricer down the road with a 6.4 Super Duty. He must be on his 5th set of tires and 3rd engine in one year. Every time he leaves his driveway he smokes off his tires and revs the engine to the moon, even if its 11:30 at night.


Living in Palm Beach, we are loaded with coal rollers.. it's absurd. They are everywhere. Obnoxious people who have no idea how to drive.