Yeah, I'm not a fan of CVTs. My dad has it in the 13 Accord. It's been flawless as of now. That's because the fluids been changed 3 times (94k miles on it). Knowing my sister, I doubt she'd care to change the fluid. It's either a CPO accord with the 2.0T, a CPO/new Civic, or a Camry.I'd stay away
Not only because it is a first year vehicle, but because of the 1.5 and the CVT.
In addition, I'd pass because it looks like it was beaten severely by the ugly stick.
If I were buying right now, I'd go Camry.
Not because it is any less ugly, but because it is doesn't have a 1.5 turbo or a CVT.
This is from someone who has owned many Hondas, three of which were Accords.
Keep in mind that this isn't so much a new model as it is a light refresh of the outgoing generation.So, I'm helping my sister buy a car (she's getting married in August). She wants to get a car in June/July so I started researching. She really wants the new 2023 Honda Civic Sport sedan/2023 Honda Accord LX. So, I am asking dealerships in my area and Wisconsin for prices, etc, and asking for a bill of sale listing their best price and stuff.
I had a dealer not too far from me send me a bill of sale. The GM had the audacity to send me a bill of sale with a base Civic marked up $5k over sticker. I emailed him back and told him to shove that $5k up his back end. $5k over on a Civic is outrageous. Oversticker or even sticker is stupid on some new cars.
I mean, the dealer group I work for has a Honda dealer in the group (Honda City Chicago). I don't really want to ask them what kind of deal I can get from them yet. Rather see what kind of deals are out there before I hit Honda City Up. Honda pays dealers 2%~ on the holdback and stuff. Plus, bonus for units sold.
I got another quote on a base Accord. GM is giving me $2,200 off MSRP but adding a "protection package" and wheel locks I didn't ask for. So, I am back at $27,000~. Used Accord are going for roughly the price of a new one(maybe $1500 less). But, the used ones are a higher trim levels(Sport, EX, EX-L. Toruings are under $30k). Year ranging from 2019-2022. So far, the best deal I've gotten on a 2023 Honda Civic Sport Sedan is $500 off MSRP. The best deal I've gotten on a 2023 Honda Accord LX is $2,200 off Sticker. If the dealer takes off the protection package. Which, if I go in person, I am pretty sure they'll knock off. hat's a $100 difference between the Accord and the Civic
I don't really like buying the first gen of any car. Usually, there are bugs in the first gen that doesn't get taken care of until the 2nd or third model year.
2023 vs 2021 1.5TKeep in mind that this isn't so much a new model as it is a light refresh of the outgoing generation.
The mechanical elements are carried over and for those who don't like CVTs the hybrids don't have them, or much in the way of a transmission at all.
My Gen 10 hybrid was similar in that while it was a new platform (stretched Civic) the mechanicals had been developed for and used in the Gen 9 hybrid, which was also true of the CVT used on the 1.5Ts.
Not much to fear here in terms of first model year unknowns.
Rear. I’m not sitting in the rear, but I max out my driver seat rearward (6’4”) and my daughter behind me said they have less legroom than in my 6.The new Accord has a ton of legroom in the back. Are you saying your Mazda 6 has even more?
Or were you referring to front leg room?