Is Mobil 1 FS 0w-40 now API SP rated? Good for LSPI prevention?

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Maybe it passed as high dose ZDDP and a higher HTHS is an LSPI quencher.

Or Maybe XoM employed the old 'up with the Mg and down with Ca compound' see-saw trick.

edited: just saw a photo where it had an API Donut on the back of the jug.

VOA or UOA time !
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Odd. I looked at M1 0W-40 Supercar and it only had listed DexosR approval with no meets/exceeds table.
Maybe a rushed PDS temporary placeholder

I don't know if - Supercar - is a viable option for you guys using this type of "full saps" lube.
 
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Excerpt from the latest M1 0W-40 FS PDS from Xom:

  1. This product has the following approvals:
    AVTOVAZ (LADA cars)
    MB-Appoval 229.5
    MB-Approval 229.3
    Nissan Genuine Performances
    Porsche A40
    Mobil 1™ FS 0W-40 Page 1 of 3
    This product has the following approvals:
    VW 502 00
    VW 505 00

23.11.2022
Ok, the choice i simple then🙂
 
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Odd. I looked at M1 0W-40 Supercar and it only had listed DexosR approval with no meets/exceeds table.
Maybe a rushed PDS temporary placeholder

I don't know if - Supercar - is a viable option for you guys using this type of "full saps" lube.
The supercar is the old esp corvette 0w40. That one only had dexos cert to
 
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Yup, sure does. If this is anything like we saw with the SN version, it will take ages for folks to see the new bottles on shelves. I think it was like a year for us here in Canada, lol.
That was straight from the PDS that was posted today 11/23/2022.

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The typical properties didn't change, which is good. I assume it's only a tweak to the detergents in the additive package:

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The most recent available MSDS:
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I said on paper because from my understanding , the FS 0w40 is a full saps oil, and I don’t see how a full saps oil can get the SP rating.

The oil has both A3/B4 and API SP rating. And since it’s now SP rated, is it now a mid saps oil? Or is it still a full saps oil, and if so how is it an SP oil?
Oil additive blends change and Quaker State 5W-40 is an SP and A3/ B3. Thereare posted U O As posted where we can see the add package is an SN+ an SP add package.
 
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Better question...

How long before you quit grade school with that writing ???

:LOL:

Just messing with you man. .
I was having some fun with the Windows 11 screen capture tool and my mouse. I was wondering if I could get anyone to laugh at it. Glad I did :)
 
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Ahh you did good RK.. real good with that. I definitely did laugh at it

I would have done about like you with that mouse... Maybe worse :LOL:
 

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Direct cut and paste from the Shell web site, for Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 (= Pennzoil Platinum Euro)

Specifications: API SP/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; BMW LL-01; MB approval 229.5, 226.5; VW 502.00/505.00; Porsche A40; Renault RN0700, RN0710; PSA B71 2296, Ferrari. Meets the requirements of Fiat 9.55535-Z2 and Chrysler MS-10725
 
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Direct cut and paste from the Shell web site, for Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 (= Pennzoil Platinum Euro)

Specifications: API SP/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; BMW LL-01; MB approval 229.5, 226.5; VW 502.00/505.00; Porsche A40; Renault RN0700, RN0710; PSA B71 2296, Ferrari. Meets the requirements of Fiat 9.55535-Z2 and Chrysler MS-10725
How about 0w-40?🙂
 

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How about 0w-40?🙂
We only get the 5W40 in Australia, just showing it's possible to be API SP (with LSPI protection) and ACEA A3/B4 (full SAPS) and keep your Porsche A40 approval. They are not mutually exclusive, but the final product is up to the formulators.
 
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Maybe it passed as high dose ZDDP and a higher HTHS is an LSPI quencher.

Or Maybe XoM employed the old 'up with the Mg and down with Ca compound' see-saw trick.

edited: just saw a photo where it had an API Donut on the back of the jug.

VOA or UOA time !
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edited (again) 221121_1147hrs so I only come of as moderately idiotic

It does seem plausible that the current additive pack is compliant with SP. VW502 oils (of which M1 0W40 is likely one of the most commonly available in NA) were specified for use in small, forced induction VW engines for a while before 504 and 508 were introduced (again, talking about NA), and I'm not aware of any widespread LSPI related issues in any of those engines.
 
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