Im really impressed with Taylor Swift gives out 55 million in bonuses at the end of her tour

[JHZR2]

Fifty. Five. Million. Dollars.

Given to actual people.

There's nothing negative about it. I'm sorry that you don't feel it was enough. Whether it was a "PR stunt," as you so cynically put it, is irrelevant.

This is just like when Mr. Beast paid for the surgeries of 1,000 people so they could see. Do the motivations really matter when so many were helped?

I wish more people did kind, life changing things "as PR stunts."

I didn’t say it wasnt enough. Never once did I say it wasn’t nice or a good thing to do.

Avoiding P so paying fair share doesn’t fit in here.

When you say,

I wish more people did kind, life changing things "as PR stunts."

I wish more people who gave relatively that much or more were recognized in a real way vs a pop star who gave a small fraction of her net worth. That’s all. I know some very selfless people who have given far more of themselves and their fortunes (and some of them weren’t hard up, they were multi millionaires) and didn’t get the recognition this has.

 

[Nesterenko]

She's credited as a writer on every single one of her songs and as a solo writer on over a hundred.

You don't have to like her music but to say she doesn't have talent is bogus. She's a powerhouse.

I don't know any of her songs.I'm just turning 70, don't know that much of the new music but I can name at least a couple of artists that sound pretty good. Ed Sheeran and the Weekend but Taylor Swift? She's so bland looking and skinny faced not to speak of the generic music. Supposedly she's had a lot of hits but I'll be darned if I can name just one.

 

[Owen Lucas]

This is just like when Mr. Beast paid for the surgeries of 1,000 people so they could see. Do the motivations really matter when so many were helped?

Mr. Beast is the real deal, he has stated before he doesn’t care if he gives all of his money away to charity, that’s his goal. He’s down to earth and says he has enough money.

For those who don’t know he turned down a $2 Billion offer for his YouTube channel and he drives a Tesla and a Nissan Armada.

The guy made IIRC $100MM last year with his ghost kitchen restaurant Beast Burger which I predict will give McDs a massive headache.

Compared to Mr. Beast, Taylor Swift looks like a Scrooge, even though she is still way far ahead of most other wealthy people who are just hoarding money. I hope to see more actual change in society from these two, maybe they will inspire others.

 

[HemiBenny]

I don’t care what her political beliefs are and I couldn’t tell you one line from one of her songs, but good on her and good for them. That money may be a drop in the bucket for her, but for the recipients, it COULD be life changing.
The thing is, I don’t live in her head, so I won’t pretend to know if her actions were an act of genuine gratitude or a PR stunt. I do know one thing, she didn’t have to do it at all.

 

[Bottom_Feeder]

hmmmmm…

So this is why I’m not impressed:

She is supposedly worth $740M according to Forbes, and is on track to earn $340M just this year.

If she gave away $55M, it’s 7.4% of her net worth.

If someone is poor as a church mouse and has no real net worth, and tithes 10%, they’re giving more.

If someone with a $100k/yr income but no net worth gave away $7.4k, would anyone bat an eyelid?

If someone with a $340k/yr job and $740k net worth gave away $55k to their university or something (happens all the time) and would only be 16% of their income, would anyone make a PR statement?

So it’s all because it’s TS, and all because it’s a level of money that most people will never have.

But in reality in relation to her net worth and income it’s not much. Nice? For sure. Better than nothing? Absolutely. Changing the life of many of these people? Yes. But anything beyond a PR stunt and tax write off for Taylor, Inc.? Dubious.

Why are you so hung up on what percentage of her net worth this was? Why does that change the significance of her giving away 55 million dollars to her support staff just as a thank you?

What do you feel would be a fair amount for her to give away before you would approve? 100 million? 250 million?

 

[Skippy722]

I think there’s a lot of fakeness here. She’s doing the “be kind” type thing that her fans wear on their t-shirts and gives a good optic. How many billions did the tour bring? How much did she make? How much of it does she “need”? Why not pay more of her “fair share”? To set an example for others?

Frankly until these folks give back to the level of living off of maybe $350k/yr, I’m not impressed. Just a PR stunt while still being totally out of touch with the rest of the population you’re profiting from. $350knis still way more than how “the other half lives”.

It’s entertainment for Pete’s sake…

In her defense, and from what I’ve read, neither her nor her father did it publicly. The CEO of one of the trucking companies did after a meeting involving all the truckers. Hell, she even hand wrote those letters to the drivers and wax sealed them.

 

[dbias]

They took care of her and she took care of them. Nothing more nothing less

 

[Hillbilly Deluxe]

I thought I read her dad addressed the truckers and the idea was we’re not giving you a house, but enough to be life changing so that if you wanted a house, you’d have something to put towards it.

This is the real world about the $100k bonus. The fact is, the truckers will see about $70,000 of that $100k and most likely, about $55k up front and the other $15k at tax time when they file their taxes next year and get a massive refund. Anyone who has ever had a substantial bonus knows this.

 

[Thermo1223]

hmmmmm…

So this is why I’m not impressed:

She is supposedly worth $740M according to Forbes, and is on track to earn $340M just this year.

If she gave away $55M, it’s 7.4% of her net worth.

If someone is poor as a church mouse and has no real net worth, and tithes 10%, they’re giving more.

If someone with a $100k/yr income but no net worth gave away $7.4k, would anyone bat an eyelid?

If someone with a $340k/yr job and $740k net worth gave away $55k to their university or something (happens all the time) and would only be 16% of their income, would anyone make a PR statement?

So it’s all because it’s TS, and all because it’s a level of money that most people will never have.

But in reality in relation to her net worth and income it’s not much. Nice? For sure. Better than nothing? Absolutely. Changing the life of many of these people? Yes. But anything beyond a PR stunt and tax write off for Taylor, Inc.? Dubious.

Well when it comes to the church, tithing any money is a complete waste. I should know I do so involuntary to keep the peace at home. I would say you are better off giving it to a random person on the street as more good can come of it.

I guess the moral of the story here is giving money to people who don't have it is great. If you are in a position of popularity society is going to judge the heck out of you, a darned if you do, darned if ya don't scenario. The person from lesser means may not get recognition but also doesn't need it because they just want to be helpful. The person from greater means may be doing it for that or also just because they're a good person and want to help but because they are in the public eye they will judged entirely for the wrong reasons most of the time.

You are right, it's all because it is her. She certainly doesn't need the extra publicity but heck there is no such thing as bad PR? I wish more people with even more influence and greater wealth would heed her actions.

 

[bunnspecial]

There's always some interesting and cynical takes here on something.

Not at all a fan of her. She was first really making it big when I was in college in the mid-2000s, and I liked a lot of her early country stuff. "Like" in this case means I enjoyed hearing it on the radio, not went out of my way to listen to it. I haven't really followed her since she became not-country, but know a lot of people my age and a little younger go nuts over her. My wife was in a meeting at work the other day and a bunch of her co-workers were waiting in eager anticipation to see if they had won the ticket "lottery" for the Indianapolis show next year.

With that said, I think it's commendable that she did this. The current tour is a huge operation, and to me it shows that she cared enough to think about the people who are a big part of making things happen. Yes, it's a drop in the bucket compared to what she makes. Chances are leaving an extra $1 or $2 tip for a good server for dinner is a tiny fraction of all of your incomes too, and that's another one that will prompt a lot of debate one way or another.

 

[KrisZ]

I will give her credit for giving the money to her hard working employees instead of some corporate charity that would give out 10 cents on a dollar.
Many of these celebrities start their own charities and “give” to them.


Having said that, the hero/celebrity worship is strong, even by grown men.

 

[alarmguy]

She fully supports causes that, in my opinion, are 100% completely destructive to our country. She's about as far out there as you can get. Was it nice of her to give all that money to her crew? I suppose. But if I was making literally millions upon millions of dollars....it wouldn't be a big deal to give away thousands.

hmmmm... she gave away 55 million, not thousands in case you arent aware. Need to read the OP

 

[alarmguy]

She's credited as a writer on every single one of her songs and as a solo writer on over a hundred.

....

Yes, this is an absolutely amazing statistic in itself

 

[Chester11]

Mr. Beast is the real deal, he has stated before he doesn’t care if he gives all of his money away to charity, that’s his goal. He’s down to earth and says he has enough money.

For those who don’t know he turned down a $2 Billion offer for his YouTube channel and he drives a Tesla and a Nissan Armada.

The guy made IIRC $100MM last year with his ghost kitchen restaurant Beast Burger which I predict will give McDs a massive headache.

Compared to Mr. Beast, Taylor Swift looks like a Scrooge, even though she is still way far ahead of most other wealthy people who are just hoarding money. I hope to see more actual change in society from these two, maybe they will inspire others.

And oddly, people also attacked him for "using" the folks he helped to promote his content. While ignoring the fact that the guy was making a point that $1000 was a small price to pay for someone's eyesight.

I'm getting old, but it feels like we are living in bizarro world.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

In my opinion, she has presented herself as a person who gives back between fans and now staff.

How many companies throw a pizza party or give someone $100 as a thank you?

This amount of money actually has some meaning.



I saw another headline where Beyonce's tour paid DC Metro $100,000 to stay open so her fans wouldn't be stranded in the city because of a weather delayed show.


For as much money as people pay to see these performers, this kind of stuff should be the expectation IMO.

I wonder if either performer has had these generosities at Madison Square Garden.

I was working there the day the power went out Jennifer Lopez concert 2019.... she also made up the show because of the power outage.. 1000% agreed, the venues FLEECE customers like the ticket price isn't good enough. $6 bottles water, the ones in 35 packs at Walmart. $16 beers. May have went up since 2019...

Will Lizzo ever do an Oprah and buy everyone in the audience a car? Or even reimburse half a ticket price if they get into Absurdium territory? Beyonce and TS may have that kind of $ and same way Duane The Rock Johnson just bought a fan in Miami a house, stocked out with workout gear... we need to see more of this.

Taylor Swift does not have good music. She has money. She is "woke" and I think she was canceled once but... yes, more of this, please! Money to people, not whoever owns MSG (Jim Dolan) etc.

Correction: If you are a teenage girl coming of age and fantasizing about... things.. TS is the new Backstreet Boys or N'Sync for you.

 

[ZZman]

hmmmmm…

So this is why I’m not impressed:

She is supposedly worth $740M according to Forbes, and is on track to earn $340M just this year.

If she gave away $55M, it’s 7.4% of her net worth.

If someone is poor as a church mouse and has no real net worth, and tithes 10%, they’re giving more.

If someone with a $100k/yr income but no net worth gave away $7.4k, would anyone bat an eyelid?

If someone with a $340k/yr job and $740k net worth gave away $55k to their university or something (happens all the time) and would only be 16% of their income, would anyone make a PR statement?

So it’s all because it’s TS, and all because it’s a level of money that most people will never have.

But in reality in relation to her net worth and income it’s not much. Nice? For sure. Better than nothing? Absolutely. Changing the life of many of these people? Yes. But anything beyond a PR stunt and tax write off for Taylor, Inc.? Dubious.

Do we know if she donated to many other causes and charities?

 

[alarmguy]

Fifty. Five. Million. Dollars.

Given to actual people.

There's nothing negative about it. I'm sorry that you don't feel it was enough. Whether it was a "PR stunt," as you so cynically put it, is irrelevant.

This is just like when Mr. Beast paid for the surgeries of 1,000 people so they could see. Do the motivations really matter when so many were helped?

I wish more people did kind, life changing things "as PR stunts."

Thank you. Some of these comments in here make me wonder what planet I live on or about a percentage of the human race in general *LOL* I dont get it, really but I think I know but will let it be.

Lots of jealousy I think and all I can think. Taylor Swift and company enriched the lives of many, many people and those who work for her. Truly she is an incredible employer who seeks to take advantage of no one and appreciates their work, no matter what task they perform, much better than many if not all companies out there. So what is the beef? Good lord!

5 million was to the truckers and another FIFTY million to the rest of the people who worked the tour with her, no one left out, seamstresses included.

I stated her music doesnt do much for me but she has talent or no one would see her and the fact that she writes and co-writes all her songs is staggering.

She also contributes more tax money than everyone in this thread combined. It's an amazing story how a young teenage girl can struggle and REALLY make history for herself in America. Something no one can take from her.

 

[alarmguy]

Do we know if she donated to many other causes and charities?

I found a few things unrelated to her crews and employees

https://blog.greatnonprofits.org/18-of-taylor-swifts-most-charitable-moments/

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/...ations-food-banks-eras-tour/story?id=98107116

This below is a big one for me, working with children, can you imagine the glow of Taylor spending time with kids in a cancer hospital, talk about giving a child an emotional uplift to these kids to have someone like her visit them ... so say what you want, I'm not a promoter of hers but lets be real and see the good.
https://moneyinc.com/what-does-taylor-swift-do-for-charity/

But if you search the term "history of Taylor Swift donations" you can read all morning long. Dozens of things ... and she started out at the young age of 17 or so for causes such as rallying support for legislation in TN to protect children from online predators

 

[JHZR2]

Thank you. Some of these comments in here make me wonder what planet I live on or about a percentage of the human race in general *LOL* I dont get it, really but I think I know but will let it be.

Lots of jealousy I think and all I can think. Taylor Swift and company enriched the lives of many, many people and those who work for her. Truly she is an incredible employer who seeks to take advantage of no one and appreciates their work, no matter what task they perform, much better than many if not all companies out there. So what is the beef? Good lord!

5 million was to the truckers and another FIFTY million to the rest of the people who worked the tour with her, no one left out, seamstresses included.

I stated her music doesnt do much for me but she has talent or no one would see her and the fact that she writes and co-writes all her songs is staggering.

She also contributes more tax money than everyone in this thread combined. It's an amazing story how a young teenage girl can struggle and REALLY make history for herself in America. Something no one can take from her.

Folks need to comprehend, yourself included, that there’s a difference between it being “impressive” and it being a nice move. The thread title indicated that OP was “impressed”.

From a numbers perspective, it isn’t impressive. My case of a person who is poor as a church mouse tithing 10% to me is more impressive because it’s a bigger percentage and affects their life more than someone worth nearly a billion dollars.

This impressed? Meh. Go give away 7% of your net worth Taylor. You’ll never spend it all. Or give back to your fans who spent obscene money to enrich you and had to deal with Ticketmaster and everything else.

Never said it was not a nice thing or not a great thing to do. It’s just that relative to her worth it’s not that much. Numbers don’t lie. Doesn’t mean anyone is jealous or bitter or whatever else. I agree at least she’s giving it.

I don’t think I deserve anything or that anyone owes me anything. I certainly don’t expect a handout or “bonus” from anyone. It’s great that she did it. It’s just not impressive. Go by the numbers. Look objectively at the percentages. A small percentage of a staggering number is a big number. So what?

If she had given away all but $340k, a huge wage for 99% of the country, then I’d be “impressed”. I’m as allowed to be unimpressed as you are to be head over heels over the move.

 

[Jimmy_Russells]

I'm sure all the naysayers give away 7% of their net worth all the time