i love HOTDOGS.

[Aldaris]

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Nah people have different tastes.

Only crazy people I know don't like garlic.

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Exactly. Now, how about the FDA's latest strike of genius?

The FDA, Viruses, and Ready-To-Eat-Meat

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That's ridiculous. Why would they go ahead with that but put a hold on irradiated meat? Irradiated is the WAY TO GO

 

[GMorg]

Aldaris wrote: "Irradiated is the WAY TO GO"

The issue with irradiation is that when the consumer contaminates the product (and they do) and then does not store the product correctly (and sometimes they don't), then without a nice biofilm to compete with the oportunistic pathogen, the product blooms. If you contaminate a raw, aged beef steak with a little salmonella, nothing generally happens because the salmonella cannot compete with the organisms that are established on the meat. On the other hand, if you contaminate sterile meat with salmonella, it can reach a pathogenic density fairly quickly. Irradiation is great until the package is opened.

 

[moribundman]

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Irradiation is great until the package is opened.

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Exactly. And that's what's almost never mentioned for a few reasons. Number one being that if foodborne illness occurrs, the blame can be squarely placed on the consumer who mishandled the product. The factory worker who dropped your steak on the floor is safe, because the product you bought was sterilized.

Just yesterday I saw a worker, who was working outside the market, drop some fruit into the filthy street. He simply picked it up and put right back on display. Gross. You are probably best off not knowing what happens to the food that you eat between the farm or ranch and your dinner table.

 

[CivicFan]

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With the rare exception of the local Dairy Queen's Hormel chili dogs, the only hot dogs I normally eat are Nathan's or occasionally Hebrew National. Have seen hot dogs manufactured—eeeeewwwwwwwww—which is one reason I'm pretty picky about them. Nathan's has a fair amount of garlic, so those might not be to everyone's taste. No chicken, turkey, or pork franks.

Rule of thumb for safety: stay away from the cheap junk and get a decent all-beef kosher dog. Kosher rules for food processing are pretty tight, so you know those aren't having viruses sprayed on them!

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I hope you know that Hebrew National is made by ConAgra Foods which makes the Peter Pan peanut butter which had salmonella in it (how they managed to put fecal matter in roasted and ground peanuts is beyond me).

 

[Shannow]

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(how they managed to put fecal matter in roasted and ground peanuts is beyond me).

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Rats...at least that's the story down here when we had dodgy peanut butter.

 

[moribundman]

Check out what's actually in common food stuff: FDA website

Scroll down a little for a long list of foods and average mold and insect content. Time to fast!

 

[sprintman]

Mori is correct re common food stuff. Read the labels people. Best bet is steer well clear of supermarkets.

 

[Whitewolf]

This is,or has developed into, something that really should be on the food website.
My comment is really a question. Have any of you guys ever read any of Kevin Trudeau's book Natural cures they don't want you to know about? He has some interesting comments about the FDA and the food and drug industries in general. Sometimes his views seem a little bit extreme but in this I feel that he may not be far off the mark.

 

[Racerjk]

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Bull peckers and unborn calf don't really bother me.

What I can't stand is bone meal! Some hotdogs, balogna, and Vienna sausage have so much they seem gritty.

Bob

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They bother me! Yuck.

 

[Crashbox]

Sinai Kosher franks that Costco sells- yummy!

The Hebrew National koshers are also excellent IMO. Yessir, kosher hot dogs are the best.

 

[XB70]

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Chili dogs are even better.

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Skyline...and it's available via mail-order.

 

[Aldaris]

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Aldaris wrote: "Irradiated is the WAY TO GO"

The issue with irradiation is that when the consumer contaminates the product (and they do) and then does not store the product correctly (and sometimes they don't), then without a nice biofilm to compete with the oportunistic pathogen, the product blooms. If you contaminate a raw, aged beef steak with a little salmonella, nothing generally happens because the salmonella cannot compete with the organisms that are established on the meat. On the other hand, if you contaminate sterile meat with salmonella, it can reach a pathogenic density fairly quickly. Irradiation is great until the package is opened.

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Great post with a great point that I did not consider. Well now, it's a bit of a shame then that irradiation and bioengineered beneficial macrophages are mutually exclusive. Would be neat if they could irradiate the food to kill off whatever's lurking within, and then treat it with the bacteria to keep the bad stuff out.


The media would have a field day on it though

 

[GMorg]

Aldaris wrote: "irradiate the food to kill off whatever's lurking within, and then treat it with the bacteria to keep the bad stuff out."

The experiment has been done in many variations. Works great!