Hyundai Ioniq 5 pulls off 2022 World Car of the Year hat trick -autoblog.com
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The problem is, the same people who are pushing all of these mandates for electric vehicles, all hate the nuclear and fossil fuel industry it's going to take to charge all of these EV batteries. The wind doesn't blow all the time, and the Sun doesn't shine all the time.
And the way the water level is drastically dropping in many areas, it's only a matter of time before hydro electric is going to become severely limited.
Electricity has to be used as it's made. Unlike petroleum and / or nuclear fuel that can be made, then stored until needed. Batteries won't cut it. If all the batteries in the entire world were charged to 100% capacity, they would supply the world for less than 10 minutes.
Make 10 times as many batteries, and it will only last for an hour and a half. With a little time to go to the bathroom. That's it.
Until the same people who are pushing EV's start coming to their senses about understanding the need for additional power plants, and start BUILDING THEM, this problem is only to to GROW..... Not SHRINK like it needs to, for EV's to become as widespread as they want them.
As I said, a government cannot legislate technology. All they manage to do is hinder and tax it.
I'm just stunned that Hyundai were are to come up with such a cool design that stands out from everything else.
People are great at bashing Hyundai and underestimating them - all at the same time.
EV's are plagued with the same two major problems guns are..... Politicians and rust.
How much rust is there in Arizona?????
Perhaps study the reasons behind that?
It doesn't matter. It's happening.
Unless you are in Flagstaff or some other towns at elevation, not where the vast majority live....in the valley.
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Funny enough, I saw once of these today about an hour ago. I applaud them for making something unique. The exterior kinda looks like a cross between a Delorean and the Lost in Space robot. It's interesting, but I could see it looking pretty dated very quickly. The interior just doesn't do it for me personally. It kinda has a Honda Element meets the 90's Chrysler design team... I'm sure someone will love it, but that's not me.
The flip side is that the sister car looks really good to me: https://www.kia.com/us/en/ev6
So in that sense, I think the Ioniq 5 design "works", since it offers an alternative to the more normal looking EV6. Kia's designers seem to be coming up with some nice stuff these days--and spec-wise the EV6 GT does look pretty impressive.
The flip side is that the sister car looks really good to me: https://www.kia.com/us/en/ev6
So in that sense, I think the Ioniq 5 design "works", since it offers an alternative to the more normal looking EV6. Kia's designers seem to be coming up with some nice stuff these days--and spec-wise the EV6 GT does look pretty impressive.
Yes, Bjorn Nyland got a test ride in a Kia EV6 GT which he measured does 0-100km/h in 3.5 seconds and 100-200 km/h in 9.3. And it can regen-brake momentarily to 350kW.
More like propaganda. If you are trying to come in at a 45 degree angle, and pin this latest drought on "global warming", I'm afraid that dog has long stopped hunting..... If it ever did.
And if you think by this country going to EV's would somehow solve it, I must admit, I would love to see your map that connects those dots.
Nonsense. While EV's are perfect for well off folks who do not travel, they are awful for those of us who do. Not only is the barrier to entry quite high ($60,000) for a Nissan Sentra sized car, (which by the way costs $20K) they don't have good interstate highway range at speed. Nor can they tow long distances. The (now $100,000 135KWh) Rivian has a practical maximum highway towing range of 70 to 100 miles.
It is intellectually dishonest to ignore the downsides.
The Mercedes car above that went 600 miles only has a 100KWh battery. Getting that kind of range from such minimal power requires a large number of compromises, and is done at great expense. It's not unlike the MPG challenges of the recent past, where specialty cars exceeded 1000MPG.
Don't show me something stupidly impractical and exceedingly expensive and tell me it will work for me. The US interstates are flat out chock-a-block full of people who need capable vehicles. .
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Their comeback is always the same lame, repetitive gibberish..... "Eventually these problems will be solved". "Everything takes time".
I'm interested is knowing exactly how they intend to solve the power grid problem these things are going to exacerbate exponentially, by introducing hundreds of thousands, or even possibly millions, of electric vehicles into the market?
While at the same time refusing to allow even one single fossil fuel, or nuclear power plant to be built? Where is all of this power going to come from?
And even more importantly, WHEN? The fact is the very same people who are pushing for these EV's, and who are chomping at the bit to see them in everyone's garage, are their own worst enemies in this regard.
I have plenty of oats for my horses. If everyone switched to them newfangled horseless carriages, there won't be enough gasoline for them. They'll be stuck on the side of the road. No thank you.
Competition is good, as far as these awards, to me it’s just the media and the industry padding themselves on the back.
Nothing more different than Hollywood with their Emmy awards and every other type of award, again patting themselves on the back.
Let me repeat, competition is good, I’d rather see American companies do better than foreign companies if possible.
“Progress for humanity”
Oh my God, give me a break, another statement made for snowflakes.
Whom will take out a $55,000 loan and be backwards on the vehicle out the door and finally have the car paid off in eight years. That sounds like progress for Hyundai not humanity.
Nothing more different than Hollywood with their Emmy awards and every other type of award, again patting themselves on the back.
Let me repeat, competition is good, I’d rather see American companies do better than foreign companies if possible.
“Progress for humanity”
Oh my God, give me a break, another statement made for snowflakes.
Whom will take out a $55,000 loan and be backwards on the vehicle out the door and finally have the car paid off in eight years. That sounds like progress for Hyundai not humanity.
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I fully expect ICE (private) vehicles to be taxed off the road as EVs become more affordable and the charging infrastructure put in place.
They look kind of odd in person. There is a demo one locally and I see it doing test-drives when I'm on my way to work. It is smaller than I would like.
Not until people understand energy production, losses and use and where it really goes will they understand that cars are NOT the major energy consumer. I do love EV's, the quiet, the acceleration, the lack of drama, the awesome driving dynamics, and good God do I want a Plaid. But they are NOT saving the planet in any way, shape or form.“Progress for humanity”
Oh my God, give me a break, another statement made for snowflakes.
Burning something to turn a generator, then converted via transformer to high voltage, then transmitted over wires, then transformed again to low voltage, then run through a charger and it's losses, into a battery, then out of the battery, then through a DC to AC converter, to a motor, to a gearbox-axles and tires is not a lossless setup. Only 59% to 61% of grid power makes it to the wheels. On average, only 35% of the fuels power makes it to the grid.
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