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[alarmguy]

I fully expect ICE (private) vehicles to be taxed off the road as EVs become more affordable and the charging infrastructure put in place.

Yes they have to be taxed, right now the taxpayers are supplementing the selling price of many of these cars in the actual purchase price itself with $7500 rebates.
The EV owners right now are getting away with not maintaining and building our roads, I can’t wait for that to stop either!
In addition non-EV owners will be paying to upgrade the electric grid and power plants.

 

[97prizm]

OR-the 90% fewer moving parts than an ICE machine. This Mercedes just went over 600 miles on a SINGLE CHARGE. Over the "bladder range" of many.
https://www.caranddriver.com/featur...1-mile-road-trip/?utm_campaign=socialflowFBCD

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This should be a wakeup call for Tesla. If Mercedes Benz can make a 600 mile electric vehicle vs the goofy cybertruck nonsense. I'd still rather have a Brabus tuned twin-turbo V-12 S class aby day.

 

[CKN]

Yes they have to be taxed, right now the taxpayers are supplementing the selling price of many of these cars in the actual purchase price itself with $7500 rebates.
The EV owners right now are getting away with not maintaining and building our roads, I can’t wait for that to stop either!
In addition non-EV owners will be paying to upgrade the electric grid and power plants.

Taxing for "the common good" is something that's been around for ever. Schools come to mind. My children have been through school many, many years ago-yet I still pay taxes for schools. Attending a Junior College (subsidized by taxes) has allowed me to get a good job and pay ALOT of taxes. I guess we could debate whether the change to "electric cars" will be for the common good. With the famous "inversion" we get in Utah in the winter time-taking ICE vehicles off the road would help-greatly.

 

[CKN]

This should be a wakeup call for Tesla. If Mercedes Benz can make a 600 mile electric vehicle vs the goofy cybertruck nonsense. I'd still rather have a Brabus tuned twin-turbo V-12 S class aby day.

Well-if you could afford a Brabus fuel costs are a non issue....

 

[RooflessVW]

I'd go a step further and say "if it doesn't have combustion, I don't want it" - you know for those future engines and rotary type designs ;-)

Sounds like a Tesla for you.

Or did you mean internal combustion.

 

[billt460]

Taxing for "the common good" is something that's been around for ever. Schools come to mind. My children have been through school many, many years ago-yet I still pay taxes for schools. Attending a Junior College (subsidized by taxes) has allowed me to get a good job and pay ALOT of taxes. I guess we could debate whether the change to "electric cars" will be for the common good. With the famous "inversion" we get in Utah in the winter time-taking ICE vehicles off the road would help-greatly.

There is no "common good" with electric cars. People have had so much smoke blown up their collective rear ends with these tinker toys, it defies logic.

If people want electric cars fine, they can pay for them.... ALL of them.

There is no "common good" if you don't want what they're selling. And it's even worse if they try to ram it down your throat. All under the pretense, "It's for the common good".

 

[supton]

You don't want pistons in your Kiayundia.

I thought they came standard with disconnecting rods?

 

[JeffKeryk]

Until a vehicle can be charged as fast as filling up a tank of gas, gas will command 75% of the market.

Our EV spends zero time (and miles) going to gas stations. The other cars, well they are always on the lookout for cheal gas. Gotta drive 10 miles each way to get Costco gas... What a waste of time, money and fuel! ICE cars can be too much hassle.

 

[JeffKeryk]

There is no "common good" with electric cars. People have had so much smoke blown up their collective rear ends with these tinker toys, it defies logic.

If people want electric cars fine, they can pay for them.... ALL of them.

There is no "common good" if you don't want what they're selling. And it's even worse if they try to ram it down your throat. All under the pretense, "It's for the common good".

I respect your opinion, but who is ramming an EV down your throat?

 

[billt460]

I respect your opinion, but who is ramming an EV down your throat?

https://calmatters.org/environment/2022/04/california-electric-cars-rule-zero-emissions/

If they're so wonderful, let the marketplace sell them. Not the government. You have to be blind to not see where this is going.

 

[CKN]

There is no "common good" with electric cars. People have had so much smoke blown up their collective rear ends with these tinker toys, it defies logic.

If people want electric cars fine, they can pay for them.... ALL of them.

There is no "common good" if you don't want what they're selling. And it's even worse if they try to ram it down your throat. All under the pretense, "It's for the common good".

You are certainty entitled to your view. But the government is subsidizing the infrastructure-so you will pay for that-whether you choose to own an electric vehicle or not.

 

[JeffKeryk]

https://calmatters.org/environment/2022/04/california-electric-cars-rule-zero-emissions/

If they're so wonderful, let the marketplace sell them. Not the government. You have to be blind to not see where this is going.

2035 is a long ways away. No law has been passed. I think you live in AZ?

 

[billt460]

You are certainty entitled to your view. But the government is subsidizing the infrastructure-so you will pay for that-whether you choose to own an electric vehicle or not.

I don't mind paying for power plants. We need them. We have for years. It's the government that is blocking their construction. The same government that's pushing EV's.

 

[billt460]

2035 is a long ways away. No law has been passed. I think you live in AZ?

You think California is the only place liberals live?

 

[alarmguy]

Taxing for "the common good" is something that's been around for ever. Schools come to mind. My children have been through school many, many years ago-yet I still pay taxes for schools. Attending a Junior College (subsidized by taxes) has allowed me to get a good job and pay ALOT of taxes. I guess we could debate whether the change to "electric cars" will be for the common good. With the famous "inversion" we get in Utah in the winter time-taking ICE vehicles off the road would help-greatly.

Yeah I don’t see taxing so people can buy $50,000 plus vehicles as the common good but that’s just me.

 

[CKN]

I don't mind paying for power plants. We need them. We have for years. It's the government that is blocking their construction. The same government that's pushing EV's.

Even the government is smart enough to know they have to beef up the grid to make electric vehicles viable.

 

[alarmguy]

There is no "common good" with electric cars. People have had so much smoke blown up their collective rear ends with these tinker toys, it defies logic.

If people want electric cars fine, they can pay for them.... ALL of them.

There is no "common good" if you don't want what they're selling. And it's even worse if they try to ram it down your throat. All under the pretense, "It's for the common good".

Glad I’m not the only one that feels this way, what a bunch of garbage people are being fed with my paycheck!

 

[CKN]

Yeah I don’t see taxing so people can buy $50,000 plus vehicles as the common good but that’s just me.

I'm sure you know GM/Honda are committed to lower priced EVs. And I'm sure the Koreans will be on board as well.

 

[alarmguy]

You are certainty entitled to your view. But the government is subsidizing the infrastructure-so you will pay for that-whether you choose to own an electric vehicle or not.

Only partly correct. Gasoline taxes pay a huge role in the construction and maintenance of roads.
This is more of a local and state problem that drastically needs a solution as EV owners are getting away without paying taxes.
One thing for sure you can bet government will find a way!

 

[CKN]

Glad I’m not the only one that feels this way, what a bunch of garbage people are being fed with my paycheck!

Respectfully-there are always second or third world countries that will not take as much of your paycheck.