Hummer Global Debut
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I saw the Hummer (I posted it here somewhere within a week ago>)
First time ever. I thought it look awesome and it was the White one pictured above.
It was on a highway/interstate. I was coming up from behind and thought wow that looks cool. Then from the sides I saw the EV on the door panels, then the front. I wish I had longer but he was exiting before I good look longer.
Very impressive "stance" for lack of a better word.
First time ever. I thought it look awesome and it was the White one pictured above.
It was on a highway/interstate. I was coming up from behind and thought wow that looks cool. Then from the sides I saw the EV on the door panels, then the front. I wish I had longer but he was exiting before I good look longer.
Very impressive "stance" for lack of a better word.
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You were looking for the 6.6L Duramax icon !!!
I wish they made a GMC Yukon EV. Same huge battery pack but in a more efficient normal SUV shape/stance. I think the range would be insane as it wouldn’t have the losses of the huge off road tires and massiveness the Hummer EV has. I guess that would basically be the Escalade IQ dialed down a bit into a Yukon.
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Yup, saw one locally the other day too, the thing is massive, very much the personification of "urban assault vehicle".
My next door neighbors had his and her Hummers. Neither one could fit in the garage. They didn't live here long; moved to South San Jose to be near Reid-Hillview Airport. Probably got a bigger garage...
Like a house, some people like large vehicles.
An analogy would be why most all famous people live in mansions?
Because they can if they chose to.
Nothing I would buy although I could literally buy one out of my checkbook, no more than I would pay something north of 50K for a half ton pickup.
A quick glance at what we drive would show what our discretionary dollars go to, and it ain't cars.
Still, GM is playing to its strengths with this hideous exercise in excess and will no doubt find it as profitable as it does its other outsized and overweight offerings.
If you can't design, engineer and manufacture cars, then I guess you have to move into the truck market to survive.
The next recession will show the wisdom of GM's choice.
A quick glance at what we drive would show what our discretionary dollars go to, and it ain't cars.
Still, GM is playing to its strengths with this hideous exercise in excess and will no doubt find it as profitable as it does its other outsized and overweight offerings.
If you can't design, engineer and manufacture cars, then I guess you have to move into the truck market to survive.
The next recession will show the wisdom of GM's choice.
I can't drive my mansion down the street though. The weight of my house, unless it falls on them is not going to affect them.
I can't help it though. The Hummer EV is bad ass. I just think it may be the dumbest thing we've ever been able to buy on 4 wheels. I still haven't seen one in person. I know cost wise it likely is way out of consideration for those that are buying Rivians and Lightnings. What gets me in the case of the Rivian and the Lightning is that I see them almost daily and somehow the Ford dealer here sold all the ones they had. The website for them only shows incoming Lightnings now.
I'm still amazed anyone is spending this much transportation in an area like this. I know my income is on the higher side for my area, so maybe I'm just a tightwad. I really like the Rivian. For that matter I saw a Toyota Tundra today that had to be the latest model and I really liked it. It didn't seem near as big as other full size trucks. I have to be honest I kind of want one. It seemed closer in size to the Rivian than an F150, but there wasn't another truck closely parked to it. I would definitely consider a hybrid Tundra if the fuel economy is reasonable at some point. That's a good looking truck.
The numbers have gotten crazy. My last half ton was a new F150 in 2017 with a sticker of $50k that I got out the door for $41k for a pretty well appointed truck. Those days are long gone. Truck emissions are just more relaxed. They've convinced average people that they need massive vehicles for comfort and the average consumer has went for it. While I do think the average consumer should be able to buy the vehicle they want, the average consumer does not realize how much their preferences have been shaped to the benefit of the manufacturer.
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Yeah - my dentist has one …
I’ll never own any of them.
I never saw a Riven up close but I don’t think I could ever get over the look of the front of that truck.
To me it’s plain god awful ugliest vehicle I ever saw.
On the flip side is the Hummer, massive, masculine and awesome “stance” (height/wheelbase/esthetics)
Just love the look, in that the Hummer delivers.
No right or wrong, looks are a personal choice.
GM produces what people want and has for 90 years straight (minus 1 post covid year) even during recessions, as the leader in the USA.
Honestly? I don’t think any other company offers better priced vehicles in every class on the road,
So I’m not defending them from your statement. Just trying to understand as
many of there vehicles are SUV type in the 20 to 30 k market. The Trax is 22k, for the price it looks great. (Just one small example)
Sounds good, but the reality has been a little more troubled.
Here is a direct quote from the Wikipedia section on GM's bailout:
Through the Troubled Asset Relief Program the US Treasury invested a total $51 billion into the GM bankruptcy.[93] Until December 10, 2013, the U. S. Treasury recovered $39 billion from selling its GM stake. The final direct cost to the Treasury of the GM bailout was $11[94]-12 billion ($10.5 billion for General Motors and $1.5 billion for former GM financing GMAC, now known as Ally).[95] Local tax incentives amounted to $1.7 billion, most of them in Michigan.[96][97] A study by the Center for Automotive Research found that the GM bailout saved 1.2 million jobs and preserved $34.9 billion in tax revenue.[95]
How could a company as successful as you portray it to be have required so much assistance from our government, with a loss to the US taxpayers of $12 billion?
There was additional generosity from the Canadians and the EU, although not nearly as much.
It is fatuous to contend that saving GM saved jobs or tax revenue, since had GM gone away others would have taken its place and the number of jobs created in out country by various foreign automakers demonstrates this.