Yes ......actually if doing less than 40 mph will go 5 miles of so if batt happened to be charged fairly full when shut off, and havent got ac cranked
How Many Here Are Turned Off By Electric Vehicles ?
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I didn't buy it to win a beauty contest. Its saving us a min 400$ a month....I take a little unique look for that kind of savings. And it actually drives VERY well, much better than I would have expected before driving one.
I think the Tesla Model S is an attractive car. The new roadster looks awesome.
None are quite as timeless as the W220 Mercedes, of course, but you can’t have everything…
None are quite as timeless as the W220 Mercedes, of course, but you can’t have everything…
FWIW most of those manufacturers suck anyway, so they will just suck even more if that materializes. All of this probably won't actually happen in my life and no real concern on my part.
I have driven 3 now, The Mustang E, Volvo, VW ID4. Daughter got her delivery a week ago, The Mustang is Awesome. For a daily commuter the electrics are great IMO. Not for 500 mile trips but 99% of my driving is less than 50 miles a day. The break even point where I live is 40 mpg. For the most part I would benefit cost wise trading in anything that gets less than 40. The ID4 is nice also. What I like is no more oil changes, no plugs no technicians telling me I need this belt or injector bad etc. Gas engines, though very reliable, do need a lot more care than electric motors.
Yes, those are the stated plans of those firms for decades in the future. But we will see if they follow through when the time comes.
People need to figure out how they will charge before purchasing an EV.
The vast number of owners charge at home.
It's not really a matter of being turned off by them. It's more of a I'm not convinced they work for my use case.
It's not that they cannot work, it's just that at this point, we still need at least one car that I can fuel in a matter of minutes, not hours and go another 400 miles.
So I wouldn't call my stance one of being turned off. More of a I'm not yet convinced it would work for me and oilBabe and how we use our cars.
I agree with your assessment. I'm "turned off" for the same reason. They won't, (can't) work for me either.
people here buy small& cheap b-size cars, which don´t have huge batteries. that´s all.
not everybody lives in own house with solar on roof...
how about these people; which have problems to find a parking spot , not even a charge point...
throwing a dozens of these outta window will not cut it
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It isn't the charging rate of the battery that's going to be the issue, it'll be how to safely move that much power with an interface that "Average Joe" can operate and how we are going to provide that kind of power.
Ok so you haven't actually tested 120v 240.
Third party testing has shown that 120V charging is less efficient even at the same power output by as much as 5-10%
Even in a scenario where the overall power may be equal or close to equal.
120 is less efficient because the AC-DC conversion needs to step up the voltage further and spend more energy removing/cleaning the ripple from the waveform.
Ill try to dig up the older post with links to the testing.
not everybody lives in own house with solar on roof...
how about these people; which have problems to find a parking spot , not even a charge point...
throwing a dozens of these outta window will not cut it
What % of these residents even own a car now? Probably quite low.
Thats not how they work on a long trip. Tesla at least.
You do not spend hours at any charger.
No one said EVs are for everyone. I don't get this all or nothing attitude.not everybody lives in own house with solar on roof...
how about these people; which have problems to find a parking spot , not even a charge point...
throwing a dozens of these outta window will not cut it
By the way, condo and apartment dwellers are asking for charging capabilities.
In Silicon Valley, job candidates are attracted to companies who offer free or subsidized charging while at work.
I have talked to people who say, "I never charge at home."
EVs are not for everyone. On the other hand, perhaps naysayers might open their minds a little.
There is room for all kinds of cars.
It's not really an, "all or nothing attitude". It's the fact they should be able to directly compete with gas powered vehicles, and they don't. Not even closely. Do they provide somewhat limited use for some people? Yes. But in a head to head comparison against IC vehicles, they're sorely lacking in too many areas.... And most of them cost more.
And the EV "naysayers", are not the one's with the, "all or nothing" attitude. It's the governments who are trying to force these things down everyone's throat by giving dates, and mandates attached to them.
My only concern is charging stations. I make several trips out of state every year and charging stations aren't very common down here in the Southeast that I've noticed. Plus, when I'm driving, I don't like to stop unless I absolutely have to. I will even minimize my liquid intake so I don't have to stop to use the bathroom as much. Therefore, the thought of having to hang around for 45+ minutes waiting for the car to fully charge is really off-putting as it would likely kill my motivation to keep driving. I can fill up gas in just a few minutes and get back on the road.
As electric vehicles become more common and technology advances to allow super fast charging and more miles between charges, I'll likely come around to it.
As electric vehicles become more common and technology advances to allow super fast charging and more miles between charges, I'll likely come around to it.
I think you just pointed out a long row of ev's charging on an outing. They are all waiting. Some wait in the cars reading. Some with hatchbacks have a bicycle to go somewhere and wait. Some pretend they are doing something they would normally do. Yeah people normally read magazines in the library for hours, been lifelong habits. Everyone knows about charging at home and outside the home who buys an ev. You are not in the zoo of public charging reality. You drive by and say look at that, so many Teslas charging.
It was reported in the news that the driver had self driving engaged. In fact, another Tesla hit a stopped police car here today, complete with flashing lights. In total, I think there are something like 60 ongoing investigations into accidents "REPORTEDLY" caused by Tesla self driving. I also know that the system shuts itself off in some versions when the driver's hands are not on the wheel, which makes it pretty useless anyway. I didn't reply to this thread to complain about Tesla, but it seems they are the cars mostly responsible for these accidents. It may just boil down to the fact that ELON has chosen to name this function "Full self driving" when it's not. Maybe it should be called "Fool Self Driving" being an expensive option that it is.
And I agree, you don't need to purchase driver assist or Tesla's "Full Self Driving".
And finally, I also agree that many cars come with some sort of driver assistance packages as optional equipment. My Mercedes being one of them. The Mercedes system is not likely better that any Tesla system, but at least it doesn't pretend to be more capable than it is.
It just seemed to me, when replying to the OP, that most electric vehicles seem to place a high amount of importance to the "sellf driving" capabilities available. Other cars, like GM "Super Cruise" you don't hear too much about, even though most report that is at least as good as SOME of Tesla's systems. My Mercedes system has in fact avoided a few scary situations by detecting (and braking) when some cars pull out in front or too near the moving vehicle. Not sure how it does on stationary Police Cars, but I think it will do just fine. My hands are ALWAYS on the wheel.
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