Well, corn, which is the primary product used to make ethanol, is a food.no not burning food, but maybe one day gasoline may be replaced with some other type of fuel.
But...1) Platinum in a cat does NOT last indefinitely, and recycling is not 100% efficient, so you do need to keep mining them to supply the world.
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So which is it? LOL>Everything can last forever if you throw enough time and money at it... snip
But it is all or nothing attitude.It's not really an, "all or nothing attitude". It's the fact they should be able to directly compete with gas powered vehicles, and they don't. Not even closely. Do they provide somewhat limited use for some people? Yes. But in a head to head comparison against IC vehicles, they're sorely lacking in too many areas.... And most of them cost more.
And the EV "naysayers", are not the one's with the, "all or nothing" attitude. It's the governments who are trying to force these things down everyone's throat by giving dates, and mandates attached to them.
You can keep mining new platinum, to keep your gas car on the road indefinitely.But...
So which is it? LOL>
One friend drove from San Jose to Yellowstone a few weeks ago in a Model X, super charging all the way and then back.But it is all or nothing attitude.
I drive about 16k miles a year. In the last year I drove to Vegas once and a California trip once. So there would have been 2 times I would have been inconvenienced by an electric car. More for the California trip, the Vegas one would be easy as there's Superchargers along the way.
Everyone thinks they're just going to hop in the car and drive hundreds of miles a day all the time. That doesn't happen. When it does, it's rare.
Drive your other car for that.
are you serious ?No one said EVs are for everyone. I don't get this all or nothing attitude.
Well, I spotted some type of turd this morning on the Interstate and doubt many have 'room' to tolerate that sort of joke. Was an older Honda Insight and not sure if the dude was seriously hypermiling or the turd just couldn't touch the speed limit. In a 65 mph zone where people often hit 85-90 and that thing might have been doing 40-45 tops downhill. Don't care what mpg he's getting, but that sort of thing is a hazard for all those approaching him.No one said EVs are for everyone. I don't get this all or nothing attitude.
By the way, condo and apartment dwellers are asking for charging capabilities.
In Silicon Valley, job candidates are attracted to companies who offer free or subsidized charging while at work.
I have talked to people who say, "I never charge at home."
EVs are not for everyone. On the other hand, perhaps naysayers might open their minds a little.
There is room for all kinds of cars.
Was that the 1st gen Insight? That thing should have hit 20 year old, and if the battery hasn't been replaced yet, it would be the equivalent of a 4 cylinder car running on 3 cylinder, and should have been junked.Well, I spotted some type of turd this morning on the Interstate and doubt many have 'room' to tolerate that sort of joke. Was an older Honda Insight and not sure if the dude was seriously hypermiling or the turd just couldn't touch the speed limit. In a 65 mph zone where people often hit 85-90 and that thing might have been doing 40-45 tops downhill. Don't care what mpg he's getting, but that sort of thing is a hazard for all those approaching him.
But it is all or nothing attitude........... Drive your other car for that.
I am not sure how the government is pushing anything down your throat... They don't even make cars.For the government politicians who are pushing them down societies throats, yes. Because the way they're pushing it, you're not going to have any other car to drive.
I am not sure how the government is pushing anything down your throat...
I have never heard Tesla make the distinction.Wrong. The driver said AP was engaged. That's my point.
So many times, the reality does not match the initial statements.
Are you saying they're going to make people get rid of their gas cars?For the government politicians who are pushing them down societies throats, yes. Because the way they're pushing it, you're not going to have any other car to drive.
All gas cars and classic cars are beautifulAdd butt ugly (for the most part) to the list as I couldn't tolerate the design of most EVs offered right now. I'm still surprised so many can tolerate the lame look of the Prius regardless of MPG, etc. Of course to each their own, but ****...
...theyre not gonna order you to get rid of them. they'll do exactly what theyre doing right now. wreck the economics so bad that you cant afford it. so sure keep your ICE vehicle no problemo ...but gas is gonna cost ya. Maybe get a deisel and run on french fry greaseAre you saying they're going to make people get rid of their gas cars?
What's next, we're going into concentration camps?
Are you saying they're going to make people get rid of their gas cars?....
That's the European Union, not America. It is a proposal. It is proposing pollution limits.Look at post #307 for starters. You can bet there is a lot of that type of crap coming in the future. Both here and abroad. If California is already mandating solar panels on newly constructed homes, you can bet they'll be mandating electric cars in the future.
Well, that's the intention but I'd suggest that it's too little and far too late. 1980 would have been a good time to start.a small update..."its for the planet"