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Nice Forester STi as well! Both great vehicles.
Getting extremely confused on what to use in 2021 Veloster N
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Not enough to make a difference. Motul is good oil, but if they're charging you $60+ for 5L there are options just as good for less.
I agree, Motul is good oil, nothing magic about it thou.
No difference what so ever. While these 2 don't seem to be the same exact oils, there are some Motul oils that are so identical to Mobil's products,,, well, who knows how Motul pulled that off. Or who they purchased the oil from....
Just curious.... what made you so happy with what results? Not trying to be an aSS nor a troll. Did wear metals trend down over a range of UOA's? Extra 2 mpg? Spirit of Subaru Yet to Come?
Ok - that last one was a bit of an a$$
Glad you asked. I log all my cars to death. Ever since switching to Amsoil on the s4, I get 0 timing chain rattle at start up. I thought I had to pull the engine and do timing chains. Even after a week of the car being off, 0 timing chain rattle at start up. I monitor cylinder to cylinder timing. Now it pulls max of 1 degree per cylinder. Before I had up to 6 degrees of timing pull. Some cylinders pulled 0 some 6. Very erratic. Keep in mind this car has been logged to death ever since I got it and pulls now are done in hotter temperature. It would make sense more timing be pulled now.
I am guessing the esters in the oil removed a bunch of deposits even though car has a history of being ran on Mobil 1, Liquid Moly, Castrol Euro oils meeting specs. This is going on 1000 miles since oil change.
On the mini s, same thing. Less timing being pulled. Cars just run better.
Both cars show a less erratic oil temperature swing and lower oil Temps.
I'll remember your name when I do my MIL's head gaskets this weekend.
I'll say very nice things about you every time I hit a knuckle.
Despite being ACEA A3/B4 in a direct injection vs the X-Clean C2/C3? I'm pretty happy with the X-Clean 5w30after this post but if you have a compelling reason to switch to Xcess gen 2 5w40 I'm all ears since that's what I use in my Subaru and I love it in that and wouldn't mind just putting the same oil in both cars.
The only thing stopping me is like said earlier in this thread the A3/B4 will lead to more carbon build up and in a direct injection that's a big concern for me.
I have next to no clue about the intricacies of oil though so I'm open to hearing suggestions.This is what I'm working off and it makes a lot of sense to me and a big reason I'm sticking with the X-Clean for now
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Despite being ACEA A3/B4 in a direct injection vs the X-Clean C2/C3? I'm pretty happy with the X-Clean 5w30after this post but if you have a compelling reason to switch to Xcess gen 2 5w40 I'm all ears since that's what I use in my Subaru and I love it in that and wouldn't mind just putting the same oil in both cars.
The only thing stopping me is like said earlier in this thread the A3/B4 will lead to more carbon build up and in a direct injection that's a big concern for me.
This is what I'm working off and it makes a lot of sense to me and a big reason I'm sticking with the X-Clean for nowS
I would run intake/valve cleaner periodically in any GDI engine I would own, regardless of oil.
I see low saps more as a requirement for G/D-PF and other emissions compatability.
But yeah benefits of full saps in engines designed with saps oil cant be that great.
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Sorry I'm misunderstanding your last line, likely because I'm still rocking back and forth chanting oil specs trying to learn as much as I can quickly
, what do you mean by this? That the A3/B4 would likely not be great in a engine calling for C2?Might be worth taking a look at Porsche C40, 229.51/52 and Bmw LL04 before jumping from C2 all the way to A3/B4. But thats just my 2cents.
I know the X-Clean efe 5w30 is C2 and C3 and I'm hazarding a guess for a DIT performance car is probably a better idea than A3/B4
Which one has the Porsche c40? I know the X-Clean efe 5w30 has the BMW LL04, 229.52 and VW 505 00 505 01 and the gm dexos 2 which from my understanding are all very strict standards.
Sorry, I'm falling down this rabbit hole and it's not good for my OCD
, hard to put my finger on all the terms and their implications this early.Motul 8100 X-clean gen2 5w40 has C40
Mobile 1 ESP X3 0W40 aswell.
See if you can find any of those oils for a good price and stock up
C40:
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10232392-0001.pdf
229.51:
https://operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/sheet/229.51
229.52:
https://operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/sheet/229.52
Mobile 1 ESP X3 0W40 aswell.
See if you can find any of those oils for a good price and stock up
C40:
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10232392-0001.pdf
229.51:
https://operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/sheet/229.51
229.52:
https://operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/sheet/229.52
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Oh **** I missed that completely, I should be able to get it, the shop I get mine from is a dealer so they have pretty much the entire product line on hand. I'll have to read through all that when I wake upMotul 8100 X-clean gen2 5w40 has C40.
See if you can find any of those oils for a good price and stock up
C40:
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10232392-0001.pdf
229.51:
https://operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/sheet/229.51
229.52:
https://operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/sheet/229.52
Shure thing, here is C30 if you still want to run 0W30 as per the manual.
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2022/MC-10208603-0001.pdf
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2022/MC-10208603-0001.pdf
I'd preferably stick to 5w30/40 as per the first attachment since I don't drive it in the winter and it gets used pretty hard in the summer. But it's cool to see all the oils listed like that to make things easier.
What would cause timing variation based on oil used? I'm not seeing how oil would impact that...it's almost always fuel-quality related. Typically oil temps is going to be the same across a grade so all the 40s should show the same, 30s, etc....based on my logging...
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