Full Size Oil Filters

[Malachi]

I am currently using a Purolator PureOne PL10241 oil filter on my Toyota Tundra. I was doing some cross referencing and noticed that PureOne makes a full size (1 quart) oil filter. Part #PL30001.

Here are the specs on both filters:
PL10241
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Height: 3.36
Type of Filter: Spin-on
Threads: 3/4-16
Thread Pitch: UNF-2B
Relief Valve P.S.I.: 12-17
O.D.: 2.98

PL30001
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Height: 5.14
Type of Filter: Spin-on
Threads: 3/4-16
Thread Pitch: UNF-2B
Relief Valve P.S.I.: 8-16
O.D.: 3.78

Before possible switching to a full size filter, I wanted to get some input as to whether the switch is worthwhile and safe.

What are the pros and cons in switching to a full size oil filter?

Will any damage result to the engine by using a bigger oil filter?

Also, I'm wondering about the difference in bypass psi. The full size is lower therefore, does that mean the engine will have a greater chance of getting unfiltered oil more often?

 

[eljefino]

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=002001#000010

Sounds like you want a Ford FL1A size. Very common and quite large.

 

[Malachi]

Well, I want to make sure that using a full size filter is going to be safe for the motor.

I have the 4.7 V8 Tundra and there is a lot of room for a bigger filter, even for the big Purolator PL30001.

 

[Gary Allan]

I don't see where there's any cause for concern here. I wouldn't worry about the difference in bypass valve setting since it's lower. If it were 30lb on the proposed alternate filter ..I may choose to search for another ..but this isn't the case. You can get this thread filter as big or as small as you please.

Your PL# plugged into the Wix Xref ..come out with 8-11 valve settings. This reinforces my assertion that the bypass setting is just to protect the media from collapse/insult. Only a radically high bypass setting would (maybe) alter oil flow in some instances.

 

[Filter guy]

Well someone else in another thread asked about using two different filters with different dimensions i'll give you the same advise.

What connects the filter to the engine? The gasket.

Make sure that the gasket on the different filter you are considering will seal properly. Take the two part numbers and center the two filters using the threaded center hole and see if the gaskets align. If they don't then there might be a problem with the "other" filter being able to seal properly. It all depends on the base the filter will seal onto and if it is wide or narrow enough to compensate for the offset differential you may encounter..

There are two types of gasket orientations used by filter companies. One is against the outer rim of the can. The other is away from the rim of the can, or inner. These are done based on OEM input as to where the gasket needs to be in order to make maximum contact with the base.

So there is more to worry about other than interference of fit, by-pass valve differentials between the two filters, etc..

 

[Asteroid]

What do you expect to gain by changing to larger Oil Filter? besides paying more for Filter

and using more Oil

carring more weight,

Stick with Purolator Pureone PL10241 and just change regularly you should not have a problem. Remember when your on a good thing stick with it.

 

[TallPaul]

Go with the FL1A since it is made by Purolator, is a very good filter, and has the threaded end bypass valve so the bypassing oil does not pass over the dirty element. FL1A's are under $3 at Walmart, and run around $3.50 at discount parts stores.

I have oversized filters on all my vehicles. Also, the oversized typically flows more gpm.

On that gasket size, go to the Wix site. That is the only filter site I have found that gives the gasket dimensions.

 

[TC8]

"What do you expect to gain by changing to larger Oil Filter? besides paying more for Filter"

I saw both of them for $5 at GI Joe's here.

"and using more Oil,"

I thought that's exactly why he wants the oversized one?

"carring more weight"

No comment there. Someone claimed an oversized filter can break your thread though I doubt it.

I actually checked both of them out a while ago. I believe they have the same gasket, not sure about the bypass. They were both actually purolator's size for 96? Land Cruiser, though there is some qualifier there in the reference I didn't bother to check out.

The PL10241 is really small, especially considering pureone's reputation for "limited flow". Personally I would use the larger one if it fits. You have to decide for your own though.

 

[Ross]

You can find alternative "larger" filters for your
application by going to: www.hastingsfilters.com

Find the proper hastings filter for your application either by the electronic catalog or cross reference your filter.

Click on the hastings filter and it will bring up all the data on it. On the bottom right of that page is will list list larger (longer) or smaller filters for your application. You can then cross refernce the larger hastings filter back you what you use.

For example, my Caravan uses hastings LF107 at the bottom of that page it lists LF115 has a longer filter. When you click on the longer one, it lists all the same specs as the shorter version (bypass pressure, thread size etc..) but the length is longer, everything else is the same.

 

[Malachi]

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Originally posted by Asteroid:
What do you expect to gain by changing to larger Oil Filter? besides paying more for Filter

and using more Oil

carring more weight,

Stick with Purolator Pureone PL10241 and just change regularly you should not have a problem. Remember when your on a good thing stick with it.

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Actually, the Pureone PL10241 and the one quart PL30001 are the exact same price. As far as using more oil, it's only half a quart more. I'd rather add those additional additives to the motor rather than having a half quart sit on the workbench. My truck takes 6.5 quarts to fill up with the PL10241. So you see my point to just make it an even 7 quarts.

 

[Malachi]

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Originally posted by Filter guy:
Well someone else in another thread asked about using two different filters with different dimensions i'll give you the same advise.

What connects the filter to the engine? The gasket.

Make sure that the gasket on the different filter you are considering will seal properly. Take the two part numbers and center the two filters using the threaded center hole and see if the gaskets align. If they don't then there might be a problem with the "other" filter being able to seal properly. It all depends on the base the filter will seal onto and if it is wide or narrow enough to compensate for the offset differential you may encounter..

There are two types of gasket orientations used by filter companies. One is against the outer rim of the can. The other is away from the rim of the can, or inner. These are done based on OEM input as to where the gasket needs to be in order to make maximum contact with the base.

So there is more to worry about other than interference of fit, by-pass valve differentials between the two filters, etc..

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I did check the gasket sizes of the PL10241 and the PL30001 and they are both the exact same size.