Fluoride number one cause of death?

[Drew99GT]

Apparently Dasani is reverse osmosis filtered, so it will have little to no fluoride from tap water. I found this on another website where someone emailed them. Here's the response:

"Fluoride is not an added ingredient in DASANI or any of our
carbonated beverage brands. However, since our brands contain water
from the local water supply where the product is produced, whether
they contain fluoride or not will depend on whether fluoride is
present in the local water supply. The Reverse Osmosis process does
remove more of the fluoride, thus DASANI will contain less fluoride
than our carbonated beverage brands."

 

[mechanicx]

Well that statement if legitimate is confusing because they seem to be suggesting that Dasani is more pure of flouride than their soda pop is. So maybe the water used in soda pop is not as purified as Dasani?

Here's an interesting analysis of Dasani water vs standards http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/citizenship/pdf/dasani_analysis.pdf. It basically had none of the contaminates.

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
If fluoride (compounds) have an affect on people (be it good or bad) should be easily discernible. If it isn't easily discernible, then there likely isn't much difference.


It's not easily discernable in tooth decay rates, so even the whole "reason" for it being added is a false premise.

People shouldn't have to worry about it, as it's got no reason to even be there.

 

[Al]

 

[buickman50401]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx


Anyway towards the end of that Coca Cola bottled water pdf, it kind of discredit and early poster saying bottled water is unregulated and that source water doesn't have various chemicals and contaminates that are removed by purification.


Pretty sure I said the big names are generally okay and its the local outfits for example Culligan that aren't always great or the fill stations at the grocery store but go ahead and gloss over that.and put on The tinfoil.

You guys are a goldmine. Keep grasping at straws its very becoming.

 

[mechanicx]

A person should put on the tinfoil because they point out the fact that there are numerous chemicals in municipal water from chlorine and flouride to other organic and inorganic compounds that are not present in purified water??

You said "purified water was unregulated unlike muncipal water..". That isn't true and now you start bebopping and defaulting to the tin-foil hat accusation. I didn't intend to get into a debate with you but that's funny you'd accuse someone of grasping at straws when you seem to be creating the most strawmen here and grasping at straws like the tin foil label.

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: buickman50401
Originally Posted By: mechanicx


Anyway towards the end of that Coca Cola bottled water pdf, it kind of discredit and early poster saying bottled water is unregulated and that source water doesn't have various chemicals and contaminates that are removed by purification.


Pretty sure I said the big names are generally okay and its the local outfits for example Culligan that aren't always great or the fill stations at the grocery store but go ahead and gloss over that.and put on The tinfoil.

You guys are a goldmine. Keep grasping at straws its very becoming.


All you do is engage in ad hominem.

 

[SteveSRT8]

You noticed?

 

[sdowney717]

Some individuals are promoting the use of drinking water as a dump for toxic wastes. Today we cant dump oil in the sea or we face huge fines. These individuals would likely agree with that as it is a highly visible pollutant, but flouride is mostly invisible pollutant and adulterant which can easily escape public notice, therefore they get away with it.

Quote:
What about the safety of fluoridation?

“Fluoridation as a health policy] is against all principles of modern pharmacology. It’s really obsolete … I think those nations that are using it should be ashamed of themselves. It’s against science.”
~ Dr. Arvid Carlsson, Nobel Laureate in Medicine/Physiology (2000)



http://dentalwellness4u.com/layperson/fluoridefacts.html

 

[buickman50401]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
You noticed?

Not like this is exactly the thread for rationality... you specifically dismissed rational discussion.

Quote:

NO ONE here is changing their mind despite your outpouring of 'rationality'!

 

[SteveSRT8]

sorry, man, after all the insults I am not discussing ANYTHING with you.

Knock yourself out. I got better things to do.

 

[Mamala Bay]

http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoserv...20Standards.pdf

 

[Mamala Bay]

Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay
http://www.beyondpesticides.org/infoserv...20Standards.pdf



http://www.ewg.org/release/epa-bar-fluoride-based-pesticide

 

[Al]

Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay

http://www.ewg.org/release/epa-bar-fluoride-based-pesticide

Oh wait (adjusts tinfoil hat to maximum) Sodium fluoride (NaF) is not the pesticide,Sulphuryl fluoride (SO2F2)

Here..read this:

 

[Mamala Bay]

Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay

http://www.ewg.org/release/epa-bar-fluoride-based-pesticide

Oh wait (adjusts tinfoil hat to maximum) Sodium fluoride (NaF) is not the pesticide,Sulphuryl fluoride (SO2F2)

Here..read this:

http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2011/01/11/...stic-97414.html

 

[antiqueshell]

The real issue is WHY add ANY compound containing a fluoride component to our drinking water?

There is NO reason to do so. Period.

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: Mamala Bay

http://www.ewg.org/release/epa-bar-fluoride-based-pesticide

Oh wait (adjusts tinfoil hat to maximum) Sodium fluoride (NaF) is not the pesticide,Sulphuryl fluoride (SO2F2)

Here..read this:

and NAF is not what they are putting in the water.

It's sodium fuorosilcate, the leather protectant (not recommended around children), wood preservative and glass etchant.

msds.orica.com/pdf/shess-en-cds-010-000031020201.pdf

 

[MNgopher]

Going back to the title, I'd suggest we've reached a point that nobody has the evidence to suggest that Fluoride in drinking water is "the number one killer".

Beyond that, I don't think anyone else's mind will be changed either way and this thread has run its course.

How it managed to go this far is a mystery in and of itself.

My only remaining thought is that it is very easy to use things like MSDS sheets to make an argument something is bad for you. The reality is that just about anything in life in a sufficient quantity is bad for you. The key is the sufficient quantity. Something in a low concentration may be essential or beneficial to life. An overdose of it will kill you.

Food for thought.

 

[Shannow]

I understand MSDS, and Occupational Hygient pretty well, and you are correct that the safety precautions to handle the pure chemical versus 1.4ppm are very different...

But to add it to water in the first place is the questionable practice...it's not essential, and even if the proponents own studies don't show great benefit...and 6mg total from all sources of it per day an cause skeletal fluorosis in adults.

There is evidence that arsenic is an essential trace element, and is naturally in some drinking water...why aren't they adding it to everyone's ?

Along with statins, Vit C, Vit D, all the B groups, omega 3s etc. etc.

 

[MNgopher]

Ironic that someone who knows about the intended use of MSDS then uses them to support an arguement in a manner for which it was not intended.

I am ending my participation with this thread. There is nothing to be gained.