Fluoride number one cause of death?

[Big_Kat]

Originally Posted By: buickman50401
Originally Posted By: Big_Kat


I guess all the run off from commercial farming is so much better than the fluoride. Also rural america is not as populated as it once was..

Don't forget the nitrates.


Yep, I am more worried about folks who choose to no run a catalytic converter on their car. Say hello to more NO(x) and S0(x)'s.

 

[xxch4osxx]

Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
Just one thing to add, those who are against fluoride in tap water do you also purchase bottled water to bathe in? Cause if your not your still absorbing fluoride through your skin...
Those of us who live in rural areas don't have to worry about bathing in or drinking fluoridated water, thankfully. Flouride is a toxic compound to humans. If it is so "safe", Id like to see someone at the water treatment plant take a cupful of the fluoride they put in the water and chug it down. Id love to see the results.


I guess all the run off from commercial farming is so much better than the fluoride. Also rural america is not as populated as it once was..
No commercial farming around here.

 

[LimitedSlip]

Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
Those of us who live in rural areas don't have to worry about bathing in or drinking fluoridated water, thankfully. Flouride is a toxic compound to humans. If it is so "safe", Id like to see someone at the water treatment plant take a cupful of the fluoride they put in the water and chug it down. Id love to see the results.


Toxicology 101: The dosage makes the poison.

 

[Shannow]

High school math...

When it's xppm x (unknown volume per day)...what on earth is the dosage ?

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
I guess all the run off from commercial farming is so much better than the fluoride. Also rural america is not as populated as it once was..


People are farming, to add runoff intentionally to the water ?

As opposed to adding fluoride directly into the water, at taxpayer expense, for medical purposes...

News to me...might help to grow straw 'though.

 

[SteveSRT8]

^^^^Hahahahaha, OMG, I almost fell over!

 

[Big_Kat]

Originally Posted By: LimitedSlip


Toxicology 101: The dosage makes the poison.



This^^^^^^^^

 

[jcwit]

Originally Posted By: LimitedSlip
Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
Those of us who live in rural areas don't have to worry about bathing in or drinking fluoridated water, thankfully. Flouride is a toxic compound to humans. If it is so "safe", Id like to see someone at the water treatment plant take a cupful of the fluoride they put in the water and chug it down. Id love to see the results.


Toxicology 101: The dosage makes the poison.


Absolutly, good example, many people are prescribed Coumadin, Jantoven, Marevan, Lawarin, etc., etc. This is nothing more than warfarin aka rat poison "D-Con". Taking an overdose of this not the thing to do.

 

[Big_Kat]

Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: LimitedSlip
Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
Those of us who live in rural areas don't have to worry about bathing in or drinking fluoridated water, thankfully. Flouride is a toxic compound to humans. If it is so "safe", Id like to see someone at the water treatment plant take a cupful of the fluoride they put in the water and chug it down. Id love to see the results.


Toxicology 101: The dosage makes the poison.


Absolutly, good example, many people are prescribed Coumadin, Jantoven, Marevan, Lawarin, etc., etc. This is nothing more than warfarin aka rat poison "D-Con". Taking an overdose of this not the thing to do.



This should finally put this thread to rest

 

[mechanicx]

Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: LimitedSlip
Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
Those of us who live in rural areas don't have to worry about bathing in or drinking fluoridated water, thankfully. Flouride is a toxic compound to humans. If it is so "safe", Id like to see someone at the water treatment plant take a cupful of the fluoride they put in the water and chug it down. Id love to see the results.


Toxicology 101: The dosage makes the poison.


Absolutly, good example, many people are prescribed Coumadin, Jantoven, Marevan, Lawarin, etc., etc. This is nothing more than warfarin aka rat poison "D-Con". Taking an overdose of this not the thing to do.



This should finally put this thread to rest


Now we just opened another can of worms about how prescriptions are another poison. It's true the dosage determines toxicity, but poison is generally poison and whatever good it does is not always but often is outweighed by the bad.

 

[jcwit]

Well Mechanicx, I'm a cancer survivor, I am alive and well today after being diagnosed 12 years ago with only a 30% chance of survival. The chemo I was prescribed was a poison, highly toxic that not only was killing me but also killed the cancer and allowed me to continue life.

Don't talk to me about the good being outweighed by the bad. I'm living proof, it's the other way around.

 

[Shannow]

But in your case the medication was prescribed, by somebody who knew your condition, and what was needed to treat it...

Wasn't dumped in the water supply to "treat" people who weren't affected.

 

[mechanicx]

Originally Posted By: jcwit
Well Mechanicx, I'm a cancer survivor, I am alive and well today after being diagnosed 12 years ago with only a 30% chance of survival. The chemo I was prescribed was a poison, highly toxic that not only was killing me but also killed the cancer and allowed me to continue life.

Don't talk to me about the good being outweighed by the bad. I'm living proof, it's the other way around.


But even chemotherapy does not always have the good outweighing the bad. It's good that it did in your case, but it certainly isn't the case in many others.

 

[Al]

Originally Posted By: jcwit

Don't talk to me about the good being outweighed by the bad. I'm living proof, it's the other way around.


Yea..in spite of doing everything right..life long exerciser, great weight control, good healthy diet..I have needed to take blood pressure medication my whole life.

Blood pressure is usually 118/72. I will soon be taking a Statin to reduce cholesterol. Again diet doesn't keep mine out of the alert zone.

My friend lowered t his 210 cholesterol to 115. It is a miracle drug for sure. I think all of my friends 70 or older take a statin type drug.

 

[mechanicx]

Yeah drugs like statins appear to be a miracle drug until you consider the side effects http://www.statinanswers.com/effects.htm . And is there really good evidence that they increase health and longevity over not taking them, or to a degree that most everyone with elevated cholestrol should be taking them?

I think it pays to be a little cynical of the usefulness and safety of medications.

 

[Al]

Yes its a proven fact.
www.venturaheart.com/.../StatinsIncreaseLifeSpan.doc

Reputable studies show it. You will find some tinfoil hat information to the contrary.

My personal information comes from my Physician..not the internet.

Argue it. I'm not gonna' bother disputing. I know my info is correct.

 

[surfstar]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Now we just opened another can of worms about how prescriptions are another poison. It's true the dosage determines toxicity, but poison is generally poison and whatever good it does is not always but often is outweighed by the bad.


Not a beer/wine/liquor drinker?

 

[jcwit]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Well Mechanicx, I'm a cancer survivor, I am alive and well today after being diagnosed 12 years ago with only a 30% chance of survival. The chemo I was prescribed was a poison, highly toxic that not only was killing me but also killed the cancer and allowed me to continue life.

Don't talk to me about the good being outweighed by the bad. I'm living proof, it's the other way around.


But even chemotherapy does not always have the good outweighing the bad. It's good that it did in your case, but it certainly isn't the case in many others.


Thats like saying I not going to wear a seat belt because they do always save lives, or I knew someone that would have lived if he wasn't wearing a seat belt. Sorry guy, does not compute.

Mayhap you would be happier going back to the way medicine was practiced in the 1700's or 1800's.

 

[mechanicx]

Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Well Mechanicx, I'm a cancer survivor, I am alive and well today after being diagnosed 12 years ago with only a 30% chance of survival. The chemo I was prescribed was a poison, highly toxic that not only was killing me but also killed the cancer and allowed me to continue life.

Don't talk to me about the good being outweighed by the bad. I'm living proof, it's the other way around.


But even chemotherapy does not always have the good outweighing the bad. It's good that it did in your case, but it certainly isn't the case in many others.


Thats like saying I not going to wear a seat belt because they do always save lives, or I knew someone that would have lived if he wasn't wearing a seat belt. Sorry guy, does not compute.

Mayhap you would be happier going back to the way medicine was practiced in the 1700's or 1800's.


Strawman. It's not like that at all. There's legitimate questions of whether wholesale medications do as much harm as good. Not the case with seatbelts.

 

[mechanicx]

Originally Posted By: surfstar
Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Now we just opened another can of worms about how prescriptions are another poison. It's true the dosage determines toxicity, but poison is generally poison and whatever good it does is not always but often is outweighed by the bad.


Not a beer/wine/liquor drinker?


What does that have to do with it? Are you suggesting that low consumption of alcohol might be beneficial to health while large consumption is poisonous? You might have an argument there, but most people don't drink for health reasons.