Fluoride number one cause of death?
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
sorry, man, after all the insults I am not discussing ANYTHING with you.
Knock yourself out. I got better things to do.
In other words, I'm taking my ball and going home.
And shannow, arsenic? Really. Now you are grasping at (even thinner) straws. Could be is the phrasing used in the studies. Dosage is in the 15microgram/day range for a max exposure . Exposure through food consumption already delivers that amount.
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Dietary requirements for arsenic in humans are still controversial. There are trace amounts of arsenic in almost all food and water, air and soil, so it is difficult to find humans who are isolated from all sources of arsenic. There are no known human health effects of arsenic deficiency, if such exist, and the effects observed in arsenic-deficient animals would be hard to detect and characterize in humans. Most investigators believe that it is likely that we receive all the arsenic we need from a normal diet, and there is currently no recommendation for a daily dietary intake for humans.
sorry, man, after all the insults I am not discussing ANYTHING with you.
Knock yourself out. I got better things to do.
In other words, I'm taking my ball and going home.
And shannow, arsenic? Really. Now you are grasping at (even thinner) straws. Could be is the phrasing used in the studies. Dosage is in the 15microgram/day range for a max exposure . Exposure through food consumption already delivers that amount.
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Dietary requirements for arsenic in humans are still controversial. There are trace amounts of arsenic in almost all food and water, air and soil, so it is difficult to find humans who are isolated from all sources of arsenic. There are no known human health effects of arsenic deficiency, if such exist, and the effects observed in arsenic-deficient animals would be hard to detect and characterize in humans. Most investigators believe that it is likely that we receive all the arsenic we need from a normal diet, and there is currently no recommendation for a daily dietary intake for humans.
LOL with "Oral Care"
The 18 month old's sucking down a pint of Coke aren't drinking the water by definition...the kids who are using fluoride toothpaste "topically" are getting a heap...and topically as well..which is where it works.
Cleaning your teeth involves some "oral care", and parents teaching their children to do same, and not to go to bed with a "healthy" vitamin C drink is also oral care (even though the reccomendation doesn't contain fluoride)
Personal responsibility doesn't involve some bloke that you've never met, who doesn't know your health, diet, or your circumstance prescribing your condition...and your neighbour as well.
They don't know my optimal, or personal fluoride intake. Don't know my soda conspumtion, or those of my neighbours, so how can they prescribe a fluoride addition to my (unknown) water intake, when they aren't even measuring the background fluoride ?
The 18 month old's sucking down a pint of Coke aren't drinking the water by definition...the kids who are using fluoride toothpaste "topically" are getting a heap...and topically as well..which is where it works.
Cleaning your teeth involves some "oral care", and parents teaching their children to do same, and not to go to bed with a "healthy" vitamin C drink is also oral care (even though the reccomendation doesn't contain fluoride)
Personal responsibility doesn't involve some bloke that you've never met, who doesn't know your health, diet, or your circumstance prescribing your condition...and your neighbour as well.
They don't know my optimal, or personal fluoride intake. Don't know my soda conspumtion, or those of my neighbours, so how can they prescribe a fluoride addition to my (unknown) water intake, when they aren't even measuring the background fluoride ?
@Shannow:
Notice how all the detractors of your thread always want to steer clear of the root of the issue (why put ANY fluoride compound in drinking water) and instead only want to argue about WHICH type of fluoride compound it is?
This kind of method these folks use is very calculated to reduce the credibility of person bringing up the issue.
Notice how all the detractors of your thread always want to steer clear of the root of the issue (why put ANY fluoride compound in drinking water) and instead only want to argue about WHICH type of fluoride compound it is?
This kind of method these folks use is very calculated to reduce the credibility of person bringing up the issue.
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Yeah, and the tinfoil hat stuff makes any argument top notch in the first place, doesn't it ?
The amusing thing is that these folks have trained a lot of "the masses" that when they hear certain code words or phrases that they should automatically discount any subject or arguement about it. It really is a form of psy op warefare in my view. Notice how the corporate media likes to ingrain those code words or phrases and it is then spread to the legions who are slaves to those media hacks regurgitating it right back up "on cue". LOL
@ Al and buickman....Why put ANY compound containing ANY element of fluoride in any public water system....Hmmmm?
Yeah, and the tinfoil hat stuff makes any argument top notch in the first place, doesn't it ?
The amusing thing is that these folks have trained a lot of "the masses" that when they hear certain code words or phrases that they should automatically discount any subject or arguement about it. It really is a form of psy op warefare in my view. Notice how the corporate media likes to ingrain those code words or phrases and it is then spread to the legions who are slaves to those media hacks regurgitating it right back up "on cue". LOL
@ Al and buickman....Why put ANY compound containing ANY element of fluoride in any public water system....Hmmmm?
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Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
What about the fluoride in toothpaste and mouhlth wash. I'm guessing all the haters don't participate in oral care....
Nope; we just don't swallow said toothpaste and mouth wash (like it says in the directions).
Which begs the question: why does swallowing fertilizer by products benefit my teeth???
What about the fluoride in toothpaste and mouhlth wash. I'm guessing all the haters don't participate in oral care....
Nope; we just don't swallow said toothpaste and mouth wash (like it says in the directions).
Which begs the question: why does swallowing fertilizer by products benefit my teeth???
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
What about the fluoride in toothpaste and mouhlth wash. I'm guessing all the haters don't participate in oral care....
Nope; we just don't swallow said toothpaste and mouth wash (like it says in the directions).
Which begs the question: why does swallowing fertilizer by products benefit my teeth???
I did not say anything about swallowing these products, which have higher concentrations of the Fluoride anion that tap water. The fluoride in tap water is used to stop bacteria growth in the mouth. Those bacteria then give off organic acids which result in tooth decay. Low levels of fluoride kill these bacteria. I ain't afraid as the US life expectancy is now up to 78.09 years (http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_dyn_le00_in&idim=country:USA&dl=en&hl=en&q=us+life+expectancy+graph).
Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
What about the fluoride in toothpaste and mouhlth wash. I'm guessing all the haters don't participate in oral care....
Nope; we just don't swallow said toothpaste and mouth wash (like it says in the directions).
Which begs the question: why does swallowing fertilizer by products benefit my teeth???
I did not say anything about swallowing these products, which have higher concentrations of the Fluoride anion that tap water. The fluoride in tap water is used to stop bacteria growth in the mouth. Those bacteria then give off organic acids which result in tooth decay. Low levels of fluoride kill these bacteria. I ain't afraid as the US life expectancy is now up to 78.09 years (http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_dyn_le00_in&idim=country:USA&dl=en&hl=en&q=us+life+expectancy+graph).
Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
The fluoride in tap water is used to stop bacteria growth in the mouth. Those bacteria then give off organic acids which result in tooth decay. Low levels of fluoride kill these bacteria.
LOL, that's entirely wrong on how the stuff is supposed to work...and even if it was right, rinse and spit still makes more sense than showering in it.
The fluoride in tap water is used to stop bacteria growth in the mouth. Those bacteria then give off organic acids which result in tooth decay. Low levels of fluoride kill these bacteria.
LOL, that's entirely wrong on how the stuff is supposed to work...and even if it was right, rinse and spit still makes more sense than showering in it.
http://chemistry.about.com/b/2011/09/11/how-fluoride-works.htm
And that's how it's applied in my family.
And that's how it's applied in my family.
Originally Posted By: buickman50401
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
sorry, man, after all the insults I am not discussing ANYTHING with you.
Knock yourself out. I got better things to do.
In other words, I'm taking my ball and going home.
Nope, I'm still here. I just don't care for people like yourself who have to resort to cheap shots. You can twist it all around and run it back up your own [censored] as far as I'm concerned.
Like I said, knock yourself out.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
sorry, man, after all the insults I am not discussing ANYTHING with you.
Knock yourself out. I got better things to do.
In other words, I'm taking my ball and going home.
Nope, I'm still here. I just don't care for people like yourself who have to resort to cheap shots. You can twist it all around and run it back up your own [censored] as far as I'm concerned.
Like I said, knock yourself out.
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Yeah, and the tinfoil hat stuff makes any argument top notch in the first place, doesn't it ?
The amusing thing is that these folks have trained a lot of "the masses" that when they hear certain code words or phrases that they should automatically discount any subject or arguement about it. It really is a form of psy op warefare in my view. Notice how the corporate media likes to ingrain those code words or phrases and it is then spread to the legions who are slaves to those media hacks regurgitating it right back up "on cue". LOL
@ Al and buickman....Why put ANY compound containing ANY element of fluoride in any public water system....Hmmmm?
I didn't see any answer here. Very insightful. And so true...
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Yeah, and the tinfoil hat stuff makes any argument top notch in the first place, doesn't it ?
The amusing thing is that these folks have trained a lot of "the masses" that when they hear certain code words or phrases that they should automatically discount any subject or arguement about it. It really is a form of psy op warefare in my view. Notice how the corporate media likes to ingrain those code words or phrases and it is then spread to the legions who are slaves to those media hacks regurgitating it right back up "on cue". LOL
@ Al and buickman....Why put ANY compound containing ANY element of fluoride in any public water system....Hmmmm?
I didn't see any answer here. Very insightful. And so true...
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
The fluoride in tap water is used to stop bacteria growth in the mouth. Those bacteria then give off organic acids which result in tooth decay. Low levels of fluoride kill these bacteria.
LOL, that's entirely wrong on how the stuff is supposed to work...and even if it was right, rinse and spit still makes more sense than showering in it.
Especially a HOT shower. Open those pores up and breathe deeply now....
Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
The fluoride in tap water is used to stop bacteria growth in the mouth. Those bacteria then give off organic acids which result in tooth decay. Low levels of fluoride kill these bacteria.
LOL, that's entirely wrong on how the stuff is supposed to work...and even if it was right, rinse and spit still makes more sense than showering in it.
Especially a HOT shower. Open those pores up and breathe deeply now....
Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
Just one thing to add, those who are against fluoride in tap water do you also purchase bottled water to bathe in? Cause if your not your still absorbing fluoride through your skin...
Those of us who live in rural areas don't have to worry about bathing in or drinking fluoridated water, thankfully. Flouride is a toxic compound to humans. If it is so "safe", Id like to see someone at the water treatment plant take a cupful of the fluoride they put in the water and chug it down. Id love to see the results.
Just one thing to add, those who are against fluoride in tap water do you also purchase bottled water to bathe in? Cause if your not your still absorbing fluoride through your skin...
Those of us who live in rural areas don't have to worry about bathing in or drinking fluoridated water, thankfully. Flouride is a toxic compound to humans. If it is so "safe", Id like to see someone at the water treatment plant take a cupful of the fluoride they put in the water and chug it down. Id love to see the results.
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Originally Posted By: xxch4osxx
Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
Just one thing to add, those who are against fluoride in tap water do you also purchase bottled water to bathe in? Cause if your not your still absorbing fluoride through your skin...
Those of us who live in rural areas don't have to worry about bathing in or drinking fluoridated water, thankfully. Flouride is a toxic compound to humans. If it is so "safe", Id like to see someone at the water treatment plant take a cupful of the fluoride they put in the water and chug it down. Id love to see the results.
I guess all the run off from commercial farming is so much better than the fluoride. Also rural america is not as populated as it once was..
Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
Just one thing to add, those who are against fluoride in tap water do you also purchase bottled water to bathe in? Cause if your not your still absorbing fluoride through your skin...
Those of us who live in rural areas don't have to worry about bathing in or drinking fluoridated water, thankfully. Flouride is a toxic compound to humans. If it is so "safe", Id like to see someone at the water treatment plant take a cupful of the fluoride they put in the water and chug it down. Id love to see the results.
I guess all the run off from commercial farming is so much better than the fluoride. Also rural america is not as populated as it once was..
Originally Posted By: Big_Kat
I guess all the run off from commercial farming is so much better than the fluoride. Also rural america is not as populated as it once was..
Don't forget the nitrates.
I guess all the run off from commercial farming is so much better than the fluoride. Also rural america is not as populated as it once was..
Don't forget the nitrates.
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