Filter changes during the break-in period

[Eulogium7]

Context: I have a new vehicle, Honda Ridgeline with a J35y8 NA GDI engine, and I changed the oil out at around 600 miles. I also changed the stock Honda filter to a Purolator Boss at that time. I plan on changing the oil 2 more times before the free dealer-provided service: once at 1,500 and again at 3000.

Question: Would you personally find it worth the cost and effort to change the oil filter during either of those two planned oil changes given that the engine is still breaking in and probably shedding metallic wear particles? Cost is less the issue than effort - anyone who's changed the oil filter on their Pilot, Passport, Ridgeline or Odyssey knows how annoying it is. I am committed to doing these early oil changes, though, and if wimping out on changing the oil filter would nullify those benefits then I'll do it.

 

[cptbarkey]

Personally, I would go to 3k then change both. No real point in the 1500 change.

 

[fantastic]

Context: I have a new vehicle, Honda Ridgeline with a J35y8 NA GDI engine, and I changed the oil out at around 600 miles. I also changed the stock Honda filter to a Purolator Boss at that time. I plan on changing the oil 2 more times before the free dealer-provided service: once at 1,500 and again at 3000.

Question: Would you personally find it worth the cost and effort to change the oil filter during either of those two planned oil changes given that the engine is still breaking in and probably shedding metallic wear particles? Cost is less the issue than effort - anyone who's changed the oil filter on their Pilot, Passport, Ridgeline or Odyssey knows how annoying it is. I am committed to doing these early oil changes, though, and if wimping out on changing the oil filter would nullify those benefits then I'll do it.

So, you plan on having a total of 5,100 miles on the Honda when it goes to the dealer for free oil change? If so 4500 miles on a BOSS filter should be no problem, even for your engine. You already changed it at 600 so that helped.

 

[dubber09]

Just do oil and filter at 3k miles next.

My daughter bought a new Rav4 in Jan and I did oil and filter at 1k miles, next will be at 5k miles and every 5k miles afterwards. Skipping dealer all together. Manual and oil filler cap call for 0w-16 oil, I used and will continue using VW 508 oil which is 0w-20.

 

[Hohn]

Context: I have a new vehicle, Honda Ridgeline with a J35y8 NA GDI engine, and I changed the oil out at around 600 miles. I also changed the stock Honda filter to a Purolator Boss at that time. I plan on changing the oil 2 more times before the free dealer-provided service: once at 1,500 and again at 3000.

Question: Would you personally find it worth the cost and effort to change the oil filter during either of those two planned oil changes given that the engine is still breaking in and probably shedding metallic wear particles? Cost is less the issue than effort - anyone who's changed the oil filter on their Pilot, Passport, Ridgeline or Odyssey knows how annoying it is. I am committed to doing these early oil changes, though, and if wimping out on changing the oil filter would nullify those benefits then I'll do it.

Congrats on the sweet Ridgeline, the Honda of trucks!
The stock -A02 is a Fram and I'd have gotten it off of there ASAP as well.

The Boss is not so great on filtering, but it's absolutely better made. I'd steer you towards the PGI filter (25 micron 99%) in whatever flavor is most accessible to you-- Microguard Select, Carquest Premium, etc).

If I were you, I'd change the filter, but more to get the Boss off of there in favor of something with better efficiency. Especially when you know you're engine is shedding wear particles, I'd personally want something much better than the ~46 micron absolute rating of a BOSS on there.

With 20 years of J35 ownership on my current Van, I'm familiar with Honda J35 oil changes and I don't find the filter change to be that bad. Do the Solo Cup trick and there's very little mess. Perhaps the newer Ridgeline/Pilots are worse than my old 2005?

 

[ZeeOSix]

Context: I have a new vehicle, Honda Ridgeline with a J35y8 NA GDI engine, and I changed the oil out at around 600 miles. I also changed the stock Honda filter to a Purolator Boss at that time. I plan on changing the oil 2 more times before the free dealer-provided service: once at 1,500 and again at 3000.

I wouldn't use the Boss during break-in because it's pretty inefficient. I'd want higher filter efficiency during engine break-in. IMO, you don't need to do that many break-in oil and filter changes. By 600 miles, most of the major break-in has been already done. I'd skip the 1500 mile OCI and do the 2nd OCI at 3000 miles.

Question: Would you personally find it worth the cost and effort to change the oil filter during either of those two planned oil changes given that the engine is still breaking in and probably shedding metallic wear particles? Cost is less the issue than effort - anyone who's changed the oil filter on their Pilot, Passport, Ridgeline or Odyssey knows how annoying it is. I am committed to doing these early oil changes, though, and if wimping out on changing the oil filter would nullify those benefits then I'll do it.

If you're worried about break-in particles, use a higher efficiency oil filter, and I would have put a good magnetic drain plug in the engine at the 600 mile OCI.

 

[shortyb]

Personally, not a fan of the Boss either, so would spin that off now for something better. Skip the 1500 OCI and just do 3K oil only. And do you know exactly what the dealer will be using for the free services? Might be taking 2 steps backwards for all the trouble you've gone to so far if they use something not so good.

 

[Eulogium7]

Thank y'all so much for the advice! I'll be sure to switch out the Purolator. Based on the feedback here I'll probably go Microgaurd Select, unless y'all have a better recommendation.

 

[sparky123]

I'd go to 2k for the 2nd OC and 4k for the 3rd. (That's a 1400 miles and then 2,000 mile interval.) That has a nice ring IMO. On the upcoming OC, I'd personally would change out the filter and use a filter which filters better. What does Honda recommend for OC miles/time. (I'd would think around 7.5k miles? That would put the 3rd interval miles @ 3.5k if you would do the 2nd @ 4K mi.) Many safe and pleasurable miles!

 

[sparky123]

There's a thread here :

Pentius PLXL 7317 Initial Impressions vs Microgard Select​

 

[Hohn]

There's a thread here :

Pentius PLXL 7317 Initial Impressions vs Microgard Select​

This thread and WCW doing the C&P was a big reason I bought an entire case of the Pentius UFXLs, the first filter I’ve ever bought in case qty. Love the Pentius filters.

 

[fantastic]

Thank y'all so much for the advice! I'll be sure to switch out the Purolator. Based on the feedback here I'll probably go Microgaurd Select, unless y'all have a better recommendation.

No one here can say a Purolator BOSS is any worse off for your engine than your OEM filter would be. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using the BOSS filter for your intended needs & no point in changing it for that duration either. Get your moneys worth.

 

[Gravity]

Context: I have a new vehicle, Honda Ridgeline with a J35y8 NA GDI engine, and I changed the oil out at around 600 miles. I also changed the stock Honda filter to a Purolator Boss at that time. I plan on changing the oil 2 more times before the free dealer-provided service: once at 1,500 and again at 3000.

Question: Would you personally find it worth the cost and effort to change the oil filter during either of those two planned oil changes given that the engine is still breaking in and probably shedding metallic wear particles? Cost is less the issue than effort - anyone who's changed the oil filter on their Pilot, Passport, Ridgeline or Odyssey knows how annoying it is. I am committed to doing these early oil changes, though, and if wimping out on changing the oil filter would nullify those benefits then I'll do it.

Aren't you supposed to use the OEM Honda filter while under warranty?

 

[Eulogium7]

Aren't you supposed to use the OEM Honda filter while under warranty?

I sure hope not, but it's easy enough to just throw one on there if I need to take it into the dealership.

 

[Fair enough]

You are planning correctly imo. At 600 miles probably the breaking in is done, and a couple flushes before dealer aren’t going to hurt. I had a new car and didn’t go for the free dealer service, takes more time than it’s worth, and when I do it I I do it with care because it was my money to buy the car.

Good choice of oil filter. Use the oil Honda recommends. The Honda filter is ok too, no one ever walks away seeing a carfax with all dealer service with dealer parts. In fact it is a plus on a carfax. Well, some here might.

 

[BrendanC]

carquest premium/microgard select and change oil/filter at 6k total.

 

[ZeeOSix]

No one here can say a Purolator BOSS is any worse off for your engine than your OEM filter would be.

You're right ... both should be swapped out for a more efficient filter during break-in.

 

[Gravity]

You're right ... both should be swapped out for a more efficient filter during break-in.

There must be a reason Honda would run a less efficient filter. Probably for less bypass events.

 

[ZeeOSix]

There must be a reason Honda would run a less efficient filter. Probably for less bypass events.

That could be one reason, but most likely so the filter can do a possible run with their "A/B" maintenance schedule where the filter would be changed every other OCI (ie, ran for two OCIs). A less efficient filter can typically go longer before it gets loaded up because it's letting a lot of debris through the media, so it takes more miles to clog the media.

 

[UncleDave]

Honda does not recommend a short oil change for the factory fill.

The factory fill is enriched with the moly assembly lube and this adds a bit more cushion for the break in process.

I run a filter mag and there is always just a bit of material on it.

I switched over to an Ester based oil around 60K and found int liberated carbon despite prior SN/SN+ high quality oils being used.

The Ridgeline forum is your friend for great advice, torque specs and part numbers for a variety of things you'll need.