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Originally Posted By: sciphi
Thanks for the votes of confidence!

We were looking at one of the new Simmons memory-foam mattresses. They were head and shoulders more comfortable than the Tempur-Pedic mattresses a few mattresses down.


Carefull on memory-foam ! lay on a memory foam mattress in the store for a bit (more than 30 seconds) and see how long it takes to get warm... or even Hot.. I know friends and family in both boats on memory foam, some swear by them, others had to get rid of them within weeks of purchase.. myself i found myself getting to warm as it sucked me in, although i will say it was very comfortable.

I will also add that you can have a great mattress, and you should spend the extra bucks on quality linen's too, sleep on some cheap stuff, and then buy the good stuff.. youl never look back.
 
Originally Posted By: OtisBlkR1
Originally Posted By: sciphi
Thanks for the votes of confidence!

We were looking at one of the new Simmons memory-foam mattresses. They were head and shoulders more comfortable than the Tempur-Pedic mattresses a few mattresses down.


Carefull on memory-foam ! lay on a memory foam mattress in the store for a bit (more than 30 seconds) and see how long it takes to get warm... or even Hot.. I know friends and family in both boats on memory foam, some swear by them, others had to get rid of them within weeks of purchase.. myself i found myself getting to warm as it sucked me in, although i will say it was very comfortable.

I will also add that you can have a great mattress, and you should spend the extra bucks on quality linen's too, sleep on some cheap stuff, and then buy the good stuff.. youl never look back.


I spent about 5 minutes each laid out on the mattresses I was interested in. It was nice and cool, not that warm.

My present cheap memory foam mattress is quite warm, which sure is nice right now! It's also broken down, which is not comfortable at all.
 
sciphi,

I highly recommend the Vera Wang Charm by Serta.
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Originally Posted By: Cujet
Visco-elastic foam is wonderful stuff. And, I find it very comfortable to sleep on. However, there are many different qualities of it. Tempur-pedic mattresses are high quality and do tend to last longer.

Costco sometimes sells visco-elastic foam mattresses. They come in a small, strapped box, as the mattress is compressed inside. You simply cut the straps and the mattress expands over the course of a day or two (if it's warm inside)(don't try this in freezing weather)

The Costco visco-elastic mattresses are comparable in comfort to a tempur-pedic and are a fraction of the cost. I think they were about $600 for a king.

I purchased a "topper" variant of the mattress they sell. It is quite good.


I've heard good things about those as well....


Still thinking about a sleep number bed...
 
Originally Posted By: Maximus1966
Originally Posted By: Gebo
...Natural Real Latex will fix all your aches and pains...


A pretty good percentage of the population suffering from latex allergy probably eliminates this material as a good mattress material.


Unless you're licking the mattress, you should be OK....

Seriously, I don't think there's ever been a documented case of someone with a latex allergy having a reaction to a mattress or pillow.

Put me in the latex mattress camp. I have a 6" Latex mattress and I'll never go back to another mattress. Unlike most other materials, it will literally last a lifetime. It was around $600.00 when I bought it, but that was a long time ago (20 year+ years ago?). I imagine they're much higher now for a natural latex mattress. A 6" isn't for everybody--I imagine most people would want 8" or a little more.

For me, there's a huge difference versus a regular bed. I find this out every time I travel somewhere, and often end up sleeping on the floor. A 6" latex mattress feels kinda like sleeping on the floor, but with just a bit more cushion...
 
Originally Posted By: JOD
Originally Posted By: Maximus1966
Originally Posted By: Gebo
...Natural Real Latex will fix all your aches and pains...


A pretty good percentage of the population suffering from latex allergy probably eliminates this material as a good mattress material.


Unless you're licking the mattress, you should be OK....

Seriously, I don't think there's ever been a documented case of someone with a latex allergy having a reaction to a mattress or pillow.


Uh-Uh, my sister goes anyphalactic when they place her on latex matresses or pillows post op.

In spite of us telling them about her allergy, they have the same opinion as you, and when they ring my parents to ask them to come in and say goodbye basically, Dad has always found latex matresses.

Recognition of strong latex allergies has taken 40 years, but the medical profession are finally getting it.

As to documented...
http://www.acaai.org/allergist/allergies/Types/latex-allergy/Pages/default.aspx
 
Originally Posted By: Cujet
Originally Posted By: sciphi
Thanks for the votes of confidence!

We were looking at one of the new Simmons memory-foam mattresses. They were head and shoulders more comfortable than the Tempur-Pedic mattresses a few mattresses down. 25 year warranty, with the last 10 years pro-rated. This is something I'd plan on having for the next 15 or so years, so buying expensive once makes sense to me.


I bought a memory foam Simmons 2.5 years ago. It cost me a fortune. However, the memory foam started sagging a bit in the sleeping area. But worse than that, it got soft where we sleep. So much so, that when I moved "off the spot" I was leaning at a 10 degree angle (as measured with my iPhone level app, yes, it's accurate).

I called Simmons and was informed they were in bankruptcy and would not honor a sag warranty if it was less than 2 inches. Since the sag was only about 3/4 of an inch, I gave up and took the mattress to my storage unit. Only to have it come out of the truck on the way there. At that point, I gave it away. Since it had some internal damage I caused.

My suggestion, stay away from a Simmons memory foam mattress.



This sound rather like my experience. Scratch out Simmons insert Kings Down and you pretty much have it.

Better to purchase a reasonable mattress and replace as needed with similar. What you find comfortable will change with time.
 
Originally Posted By: Gebo
http://www.savvyrest.com/

Natural Real Latex will fix all your aches and pains. Do your study and you may end up on some Dunlop and Talalay. $2000-$4000

Watch the videos. I bought 2 of them and they are the last mattresses I'll ever buy.


Exactly! If you like memory foam you will probably love latex....it feels good and does not retain heat like foam does. Plus it will be the exact same 40 yrs from now. They will not wear out and they are totally resistant to bed bugs! You should definitely check out natural latex before you spend that much on a traditional mattress.
 
We've had a California King Sleep Number bed for almost 20 years now and I wouldn't go back to anything else. Sleep number was the only option for a California King in our area, I didn't want a short bed because at 6'4" I don't care to have my feet hang over the edge.

I like the ability to adjust it to my mood-I normally keep my side around 45 and my wife is usually around 70. Last night I bumped it up to 65 for a change, and in a couple weeks I'll probably drop it back down.

I awaken refreshed and without any back pain whatsoever, and attribute that to both good sleeping habits and the quality bed.


Originally Posted By: andrewg
No way in Hades does a person need to spend four figures on a silly mattress in order to have a good one.


Despite your rant and objections, I'll gladly pay four figures again when our current sleep number bed wears out. We paid $1600 for our current Sleep Number bed almost 20 years ago, and it works out to less than 23 cents a night for a far superior bed than any el cheapo mattress that you'll get at your local mattress shop.

Originally Posted By: andrewg
I know because I've purchased more than a few in my life and what a racket it is.
Sorry....the whole mattress business gets me worked up.


And I've purchased exactly two "nightly sleeper" mattress sets in my 67 years. Perhaps if you would have invested in a quality set to begin with you would not have needed, by your own admission, to purchase "more than a few".
 
What about Comfortaire? A quick perusal of online complaints reveals about nothing negative about them. Made in Greenville, SC, too.
 
Originally Posted By: Corvette Owner
Tempur Pedic are overpriced but are GREAT !


I`d been thinking about these as well. Either one of these or a pillow top.
 
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And I've purchased exactly two "nightly sleeper" mattress sets in my 67 years. Perhaps if you would have invested in a quality set to begin with you would not have needed, by your own admission, to purchase "more than a few".

Two mattresses in 67 years?? Do you have ANY idea what sort of lovely 'goodies' a mattress contains after only fifteen years? Yikes!
And as far as WHY I've purchased more than a few mattresses? Had nothing to do with any of them wearing out or being uncomfortable. One was to replace a girlfriends awful water bed (another foolish consumer craze) and the others were to furnish several different homes (guest bedrooms and such). I've NEVER had to spend more than $700 on a set (even that is getting to be excessive). All were comfortable and made well enough to last. It's pure rubbish to pay over a grand for one....but as noted here PLENTY of people fall into the "well I spend 1/3 of my life in it" slogan (that was started by a mattress company....gee, imagine that).
Hey, I'm all for allowing the market to determine what folks will pay. Just giving my opinion here. Feel free to pay thousands if you choose. Just try and recall what P.T. Barnum said.
 
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Equally important to your mattress/boxspring is the frame you use. I bought a "heavy duty" frame with center support when I got my last mattress and the box spring didn't sit flush on the frame; the center support was lower than the side rails and it cracked the box spring. After much whining to the company, they replaced the box spring and I bought a premium frame where all the points where the box spring sits on the frame, are level and flush. It has 9 legs/casters. That in and of itself made my bed more comfortable and supportive.
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Equally important to your mattress/boxspring is the frame you use. I bought a "heavy duty" frame with center support when I got my last mattress and the box spring didn't sit flush on the frame; the center support was lower than the side rails and it cracked the box spring. After much whining to the company, they replaced the box spring and I bought a premium frame where all the points where the box spring sits on the frame, are level and flush. It has 9 legs/casters. That in and of itself made my bed more comfortable and supportive.

Very good point. A supportive frame with the cross members and posts in the right spots makes a big difference in comfort and longevity.
 
Originally Posted By: TooManyWheels
Not only do you spend a third of your life on your bed, what you do there is essential to the other two-thirds. I'm partial to Stearns and Foster, but we also have a high end model from Sears (made by Simmons, IIRC) and it is one of the most supportive yet comfortable I have ever slept on.



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You can purchase a nice quality, comfortable mattress and box spring for $400 to $800 queen. It just takes a bit of work and the ability to not be caught up in salesmanship hype.
Here's a basic breakdown in prices...
Reasonable, good quality Sealy...$400
Sealy Posturepedic....$800
There really is no reason to pay more than that in my opinion.

Here are some average prices for over-priced 'luxury' matresses...
Stearns $ Foster.....$1500 starting for queen, up to $2000.
Serta iComfort....$1600 starting
Beauty Rest NxG.....$3000 starting price.
Tempur-Pedic HD....$3299
Sleep Number.....$2000 starting, up to $4200!!

Notice how some of these companies like to use medical type terminology in order to make you think 'health'? Just a sales tactic.
Like I've said before...it's just my opinion, but in these times of limited spending ability and a tough economy....I'd really think good and hard about spending thousands on a silly bed. These prices I put DON'T include the frame, head board, foot board, pillows, and bedding. They'll certainly try and sell you all that too, along with a mattress cover/pad along with it. Add it all up and a foolish person can spend enough on a bed to think they'd just bought a used car.
 
From personal experience of taking care of my neck/back injured wife, I'd say buy from a place that you can return.

You wouldn't know how it feel until you try it out for a few nights. We HATE memory foam after a few nights and found that high spring count, firm mattress with a latex topper works better.

Also mattress do not last long these days with single side and all the foams that collapse long before the spring sunk in 1.5" indentation. Your back will hurt long before your warranty expire and they will never be used due to the 1.5" indentation rule.
 
Originally Posted By: Gebo
http://www.savvyrest.com/

Natural Real Latex will fix all your aches and pains. Do your study and you may end up on some Dunlop and Talalay. $2000-$4000

Watch the videos. I bought 2 of them and they are the last mattresses I'll ever buy.


foambymail.com is also a great place. They let you return if it doesn't work out as long as you reimburse them the shipping.
 
Originally Posted By: andrewg
You can purchase a nice quality, comfortable mattress and box spring for $400 to $800 queen. It just takes a bit of work and the ability to not be caught up in salesmanship hype.
Here's a basic breakdown in prices...
Reasonable, good quality Sealy...$400
Sealy Posturepedic....$800
There really is no reason to pay more than that in my opinion.

Here are some average prices for over-priced 'luxury' matresses...
Stearns $ Foster.....$1500 starting for queen, up to $2000.
Serta iComfort....$1600 starting
Beauty Rest NxG.....$3000 starting price.
Tempur-Pedic HD....$3299
Sleep Number.....$2000 starting, up to $4200!!

Notice how some of these companies like to use medical type terminology in order to make you think 'health'? Just a sales tactic.
Like I've said before...it's just my opinion, but in these times of limited spending ability and a tough economy....I'd really think good and hard about spending thousands on a silly bed. These prices I put DON'T include the frame, head board, foot board, pillows, and bedding. They'll certainly try and sell you all that too, along with a mattress cover/pad along with it. Add it all up and a foolish person can spend enough on a bed to think they'd just bought a used car.


You haven't factor in the sales / negotiation process yet. What you are doing is like buying a new car with MSRP.

I've tried out a BeautyRest NXG400 at sears for $2700 and returned later (sunk in too much after your body heat up the mattress), and found out that our old mattress (BeautyRest World Class extra firm, $1500 new in 2006) is actually more comfortable if not because of the top cushion collapsed, enough to hurt wife's back but not enough to get warranty. A $100 latex topper fixed that.

After a few months of research, I've come to the conclusion that expensive and cheap mattress basically means 2 things: coil counts and foam amount / type. In the end my wife got a bed that she loves: a $350 Sealy's basic twin mattress with 10 year warranty, high coil count, and barely any foam. She's sleeping there while I sleep in the old bed. We'll be happy to replace this mattress every 5 years vs buying a $3000 mattress and pray that it last 10 years.
 
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