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Originally Posted By: tonycarguy
Originally Posted By: andrewg
PR1955 said:
I too have three herniated discs (fun, aint it). Never needed to purchase a mattress for over $700 max. I've also found that the softer those silly things are with the pillow top or foam junk....the worse off my back is. A firm, quality mattress can be had for FAR less than many seem to grasp. Oh well.....keeps the economy going.


So tell me where to get a King mattress set, extra firm, for under $1200. Mine is worn out and it's killing my back all day. $1200 is the cheapest, and most are $1700+

Simple....don't get a king. A queen is a better choice economically (unless you and your partner are very large people...no insult intended).
 
Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: andrewg

Finally....a person on here with common sense! The WHOLE mattress industry is a supreme rip-off. Those that buy into it are just caught up I suppose. It's pretty much that way these days though. An industry creates a niche for something (expensive, high end mattresses) and the people will often follow if it's marketed right.


So true! There is a mattress manufacturer just a few miles from my house (it's called Elite and it's on Ridgeway drive in Mississauga, for those that are local), and they make mattresses for a lot of the big name stores up here, but they also sell directly to the public as well. I got a queen size mattress AND box spring from them last year for $188! That identical set would be marked up 300-400% when sold at the big stores.

I rest my case.
 
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: tonycarguy
Originally Posted By: andrewg
PR1955 said:
I too have three herniated discs (fun, aint it). Never needed to purchase a mattress for over $700 max. I've also found that the softer those silly things are with the pillow top or foam junk....the worse off my back is. A firm, quality mattress can be had for FAR less than many seem to grasp. Oh well.....keeps the economy going.


So tell me where to get a King mattress set, extra firm, for under $1200. Mine is worn out and it's killing my back all day. $1200 is the cheapest, and most are $1700+

Simple....don't get a king. A queen is a better choice economically (unless you and your partner are very large people...no insult intended).


Who exactly are you to tell someone what size mattress they should buy? Since you also seem to have all the answers, where exactly should Tony go to buy a king, extra firm mattress for <$1200. Exactly, you are unresponsive to his query because under standard retail conditions it is impossible to buy a decent quality piece at less than that price point.
 
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: andrewg

Finally....a person on here with common sense! The WHOLE mattress industry is a supreme rip-off. Those that buy into it are just caught up I suppose. It's pretty much that way these days though. An industry creates a niche for something (expensive, high end mattresses) and the people will often follow if it's marketed right.


So true! There is a mattress manufacturer just a few miles from my house (it's called Elite and it's on Ridgeway drive in Mississauga, for those that are local), and they make mattresses for a lot of the big name stores up here, but they also sell directly to the public as well. I got a queen size mattress AND box spring from them last year for $188! That identical set would be marked up 300-400% when sold at the big stores.

I rest my case.


Good, now can the rest of us have an intelligent conversation about mattresses without your constant badgering and sarcasm?
 
Originally Posted By: Tdbo

Good, now can the rest of us have an intelligent conversation about mattresses without your constant badgering and sarcasm?

Guess I really didn't see any sarcasm or badgering from him that you imagined.
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Originally Posted By: Tdbo
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: tonycarguy
Originally Posted By: andrewg
PR1955 said:
I too have three herniated discs (fun, aint it). Never needed to purchase a mattress for over $700 max. I've also found that the softer those silly things are with the pillow top or foam junk....the worse off my back is. A firm, quality mattress can be had for FAR less than many seem to grasp. Oh well.....keeps the economy going.


So tell me where to get a King mattress set, extra firm, for under $1200. Mine is worn out and it's killing my back all day. $1200 is the cheapest, and most are $1700+

Simple....don't get a king. A queen is a better choice economically (unless you and your partner are very large people...no insult intended).


Who exactly are you to tell someone what size mattress they should buy? Since you also seem to have all the answers, where exactly should Tony go to buy a king, extra firm mattress for div>

Geez man, relax. I was expressing my opinion. I stated that it was my opinion. Nobody needs to accept it.
As for the needs of the previous poster and that I didn't respond....?? Well chief, I don't exactly know which companies or places of business are prevalent in his area in regard to mattress sales. I really didn't think it was necessary for me to tell somebody HOW to shop for a better deal. That's up to him, isn't it? Besides, I think some folks here (including ME) did post some prices on various quality mattresses that can be found nation wide by simply doing an internet search.
Once again my friend....RELAX.
 
Originally Posted By: Tdbo
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: andrewg

Finally....a person on here with common sense! The WHOLE mattress industry is a supreme rip-off. Those that buy into it are just caught up I suppose. It's pretty much that way these days though. An industry creates a niche for something (expensive, high end mattresses) and the people will often follow if it's marketed right.


So true! There is a mattress manufacturer just a few miles from my house (it's called Elite and it's on Ridgeway drive in Mississauga, for those that are local), and they make mattresses for a lot of the big name stores up here, but they also sell directly to the public as well. I got a queen size mattress AND box spring from them last year for $188! That identical set would be marked up 300-400% when sold at the big stores.

I rest my case.


Good, now can the rest of us have an intelligent conversation about mattresses without your constant badgering and sarcasm?

That's just it....your version of 'intelligent' discussion is wholly based on excluding opinions you don't agree with. In my OPINION folks that spend over $1000 for a mattress are possibly spending far too much. I have back issues....I enjoy a comfortable mattress....and I've purchased a lot in my lifetime.....but none the less I've NEVER had to spend more than around $700 or so. But if you are one who believes that spending thousands of dollars on one is the only way to be comfortable.....that's fine with me.....I just don't think it's a wise economical decision. But, so what. Just my opinion.
 
I think there is some justifications for expensive mattresses if the buyer can afford it. Not everyone has the same back and neck and while you can sleep on anything if tired enough and wake up a few times a night on the wrong mattress, if paying more can get you better sleep, why not.

Just one thing I have to add is that expensive mattress is not always better, depends on the person and the volume of production a cheap mattress may be more comfortable. I've tried $2700 mattress and to be honest I like my $1500 better, and my wife like the $400 one the best.
 
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
I think there is some justifications for expensive mattresses if the buyer can afford it. Not everyone has the same back and neck and while you can sleep on anything if tired enough and wake up a few times a night on the wrong mattress, if paying more can get you better sleep, why not.

Just one thing I have to add is that expensive mattress is not always better, depends on the person and the volume of production a cheap mattress may be more comfortable. I've tried $2700 mattress and to be honest I like my $1500 better, and my wife like the $400 one the best.

Sounds reasonable. For me....I'd rather be slightly uncomfortable (but I never have been) than pay huge amounts for something as mundane as a mattress. But I'm certainly not AGAINST an individual paying whatever they wish. I'm just personally against for myself and see no valid reason. Doesn't mean squat what I think anyway...but I certainly will express my opinion no matter what flak I get.
 
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
I think there is some justifications for expensive mattresses if the buyer can afford it. Not everyone has the same back and neck and while you can sleep on anything if tired enough and wake up a few times a night on the wrong mattress, if paying more can get you better sleep, why not.

Just one thing I have to add is that expensive mattress is not always better, depends on the person and the volume of production a cheap mattress may be more comfortable. I've tried $2700 mattress and to be honest I like my $1500 better, and my wife like the $400 one the best.


Totally agree. A mattress is an individual preference and certain features and characteristics can make a mattress more comfortable. Value (where the lowest possible pricepoint and quality/features/characteristics meet) IMO should be considered in the selection process instead of an inflexible adherence to price alone.
 
Originally Posted By: Tdbo
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
I think there is some justifications for expensive mattresses if the buyer can afford it. Not everyone has the same back and neck and while you can sleep on anything if tired enough and wake up a few times a night on the wrong mattress, if paying more can get you better sleep, why not.

Just one thing I have to add is that expensive mattress is not always better, depends on the person and the volume of production a cheap mattress may be more comfortable. I've tried $2700 mattress and to be honest I like my $1500 better, and my wife like the $400 one the best.


Totally agree. A mattress is an individual preference and certain features and characteristics can make a mattress more comfortable. Value (where the lowest possible pricepoint and quality/features/characteristics meet) IMO should be considered in the selection process instead of an inflexible adherence to price alone.

I don't believe that having a top end limit on price is inflexible. I call it highly practical, frugal, and intelligent. I wouldn't purchase anything without giving myself a limit. It's common sense. Besides, I don't think a limit of $400 to say....a max of $1000... is inflexible. Now if I set an unrealistic limit of $200 or something, you would be correct.
 
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Tdbo
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
I think there is some justifications for expensive mattresses if the buyer can afford it. Not everyone has the same back and neck and while you can sleep on anything if tired enough and wake up a few times a night on the wrong mattress, if paying more can get you better sleep, why not.

Just one thing I have to add is that expensive mattress is not always better, depends on the person and the volume of production a cheap mattress may be more comfortable. I've tried $2700 mattress and to be honest I like my $1500 better, and my wife like the $400 one the best.


Totally agree. A mattress is an individual preference and certain features and characteristics can make a mattress more comfortable. Value (where the lowest possible pricepoint and quality/features/characteristics meet) IMO should be considered in the selection process instead of an inflexible adherence to price alone.

I don't believe that having a top end limit on price is inflexible. I call it highly practical, frugal, and intelligent. I wouldn't purchase anything without giving myself a limit. It's common sense. Besides, I don't think a limit of $400 to say....a max of $1000... is inflexible. Now if I set an unrealistic limit of $200 or something, you would be correct.

Gonna try this one more time:
Nothing wrong with a top end limit as long as it allows one to acquire a product that is a good value, as I have previously defined above. Lets use as an example a KING size mattress (yes, people can have a need for that size whether you deem that valid or not) If we use your rigid, inflexible limit of 1K, the only mattress that one would be able to purchase under normal retail conditions would be the low-end model (and many times, that is 1.2K) Many times, this is not a quality mattress (as I have explained in a previous thread with both a Sealy and a Serta (two) mattresses lasting seven years combined. IMO, a decent quality mattress should last at least ten years, and preferably longer. So, if I up my budget to 2K and in doing so find a mattress with a higher gauge of coil, better quality padding, etc that will provide better service and last longer within a reasonable parameter of cost (as low as possible) then IMO it is a better value than buying the cheap one. I know, I threw away $1.2K with the Sealy and the Serta. I wish that I had the money that I threw away on the conventional mattress and just bought what I bought in the firstplace which is a MIDGRADE Select Number at the end of the season during a model change. There is more value in that mattress than the other two combined in that I have achieved as much use out of the one Select Number bed as the other two combined and it has held up much better and still is as comfortable as the day I set it up. NOTE: I am not advocating buying high end, top of the line, overpriced mattresses or anything else. I am advocating one doing their homework when purchasing a product and buying quality (or longevity if you prefer) at the lowest possible pricepoint. That sweet spot is usually somewhere in the lower-mid to mid range of the product in question. That is what value is about and even if it costs more initially but lasts longer, it may still be cheaper than buying the cheapest that one can find.
 
Originally Posted By: Tdbo
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: Tdbo
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
I think there is some justifications for expensive mattresses if the buyer can afford it. Not everyone has the same back and neck and while you can sleep on anything if tired enough and wake up a few times a night on the wrong mattress, if paying more can get you better sleep, why not.

Just one thing I have to add is that expensive mattress is not always better, depends on the person and the volume of production a cheap mattress may be more comfortable. I've tried $2700 mattress and to be honest I like my $1500 better, and my wife like the $400 one the best.


Totally agree. A mattress is an individual preference and certain features and characteristics can make a mattress more comfortable. Value (where the lowest possible pricepoint and quality/features/characteristics meet) IMO should be considered in the selection process instead of an inflexible adherence to price alone.

I don't believe that having a top end limit on price is inflexible. I call it highly practical, frugal, and intelligent. I wouldn't purchase anything without giving myself a limit. It's common sense. Besides, I don't think a limit of $400 to say....a max of $1000... is inflexible. Now if I set an unrealistic limit of $200 or something, you would be correct.

Gonna try this one more time:
Nothing wrong with a top end limit as long as it allows one to acquire a product that is a good value, as I have previously defined above. Lets use as an example a KING size mattress (yes, people can have a need for that size whether you deem that valid or not) If we use your rigid, inflexible limit of 1K, the only mattress that one would be able to purchase under normal retail conditions would be the low-end model (and many times, that is 1.2K) Many times, this is not a quality mattress (as I have explained in a previous thread with both a Sealy and a Serta (two) mattresses lasting seven years combined. IMO, a decent quality mattress should last at least ten years, and preferably longer. So, if I up my budget to 2K and in doing so find a mattress with a higher gauge of coil, better quality padding, etc that will provide better service and last longer within a reasonable parameter of cost (as low as possible) then IMO it is a better value than buying the cheap one. I know, I threw away $1.2K with the Sealy and the Serta. I wish that I had the money that I threw away on the conventional mattress and just bought what I bought in the firstplace which is a MIDGRADE Select Number at the end of the season during a model change. There is more value in that mattress than the other two combined in that I have achieved as much use out of the one Select Number bed as the other two combined and it has held up much better and still is as comfortable as the day I set it up. NOTE: I am not advocating buying high end, top of the line, overpriced mattresses or anything else. I am advocating one doing their homework when purchasing a product and buying quality (or longevity if you prefer) at the lowest possible pricepoint. That sweet spot is usually somewhere in the lower-mid to mid range of the product in question. That is what value is about and even if it costs more initially but lasts longer, it may still be cheaper than buying the cheapest that one can find.

I see no problem with your choice. It's just not one that I'd make based on several factors including size, quality, value, the economy, financial priority, bogus sales tactics, and my experience buying mattresses. I still contend it's not inflexible having a top end of $1000. It's called a budget guideline. As stated before....yes, a king bed WILL cost more than that. I certainly don't require a king bed in any sense....and in my OPINION, unless you are a giant I see no valid reason for one. This is just my OPINION. My parents had a huge king size bed....they must have slept almost three feet apart! But hey, it's America and anything HUGE is still considered better, including mattresses (even though the rest of the world hardly sees a need for it and a queen is ample size for sure). I guess your 'homework' came to a different conclusion than mine. No big deal....but I'm still going to express my opinion that the whole mattress industry can be a real trap and that many spend FAR too much money than needed to be comfortable. They make big profits on charging huge amounts on something as common as a darn bed. Why do you think that in every city you've got mattress stores on every other corner?
Happy New Year. Buy your bed soon and get a good nights sleep before the world implodes....according to the Mayans. Lol.
 
I think we can agree that the mattress industry is a racket.
I firmly believe in the concept of buying quality products the first time at the right price. In my years, I have found that buying quality once is much cheaper than buying mediocrity two or three times.
I sleep soundly every night on my decision but to each his own. Happy sleeping on yours.
 
Let me throw out some advice for those shopping for a typical inner spring mattress. Don't get sucked into the "pillow top" option by the salesman. Think about it, you're already paying for a firm or soft mattress that supposedly feels good to your taste. Adding another layer or "pillow" on top of it changes the feel of what you picked out in the first place. Also, the extra thickness of the pillow top makes it impossible to use normal sheets and have them fit properly. You won't be able to get the fitted sheet to fit over the bottom of the mattress, and it will slide off after you have gotten into and out of bed a few times, not to mention other activities which may have transpired. They make special sheets to fit pillow top mattresses, but they are much more costly than normal sheets.
 
Before you purchase the mattress..consider what type of sleeper are you:back;side; stomach..do you move around a lot?..that will determine the mattress support type;foam vs springs...are you hot or cold natured?,some mattress cool or retain heat... this might be straying a bit, but pillow choice is also important for head and neck support
 
Yea, I'm in the market for a new mattress again. I've had a Sealy Postrupudic, a Simmons Beauty Rest, and recently, a Dr.s Choice by Denver Mattress, all in the last 15 years. The Simmons was the best as it was built probably 20 years ago so it was double sided and heavy duty. Unless you spend over 2 grand IMO, all innerspring mattresses will start sagging after 5 to 8 years. My Dr.s Choice is 8 years old and the support has recently fallen off a cliff. From all the research I've done recently, 100% organic latex is the most durable material for mattress. Problem is, in a retail store for a quality mattress, you're at $2,000 minimum and they usually only have a 6 inch core with cheap foam on top. However, I've found out the frugal mans way of getting a top quality latex mattress. Some companies like foamfactory.com and http://www.nontoxic.com/latexmattress/makeyourownmattress.html buy the latex slabs and sell covers. That will allow you to get a 12 inch 100% latex mattress at half the cost! I'm looking into it further, but I'm thinking about getting one. I'm tired of spending 700 bucks every 6 to 8 years for an innerspring mattress that wears out.
 
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