Read all my posts here for context. If I drove more than 20,000 miles a year I'd be underpaying, but the car only saw 6,500 miles last year.
EV sales rise and key revenue from gas tax plunges
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OVERKILL
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But it knows how many kWh you've pulled from it (the charge station). If there's a tax levied on the kWh delivered, then that's equivalent to a fuel tax. The charging at home scenario is where it becomes a bit more complicated and would depend on communication so that the meter and utility know which kWh were used for the EV vs for the house.
What about hybrids, that get 50 mpg but weigh more due to the battery?
Our Model 3 sees less than 5K per year... I'm feeling a little shortchanged!
You don't even have 30K on that car? The way you rant and rave it sounds like you are putting on a lot more miles than that. So it is going to be 6 years old does 5K a year but its the best thing since the electric toaster? Ok got it. LOL
Not all do. Many subsidized chargers don't really do anything other than use power from a 240V source, which could easily be shared from the same meter with stuff like appliances. There are some with EV only circuits, but the majority of homes have shared systems.
This pays a road tax,
This does not
This does not
Just showing you how wrong you are again, this time about the road tax...
Another difference between you and me is I can admit when I make a mistake; your best is "LOL" or childish ridicule. You scored both on this post; well done!
By the way, I have 5 vehicles that are regularly driven; I spread it out over all of them. And I am retired, so I drive less, not to mention the pandemic shut a lot of driving down. When I do travel, I usually fly. I have close to 19K on the Model 3; more in the last year... My favorite is probably our trusty Tundra but it sucks the gas.
See how silly your post is?
You have a lot to offer; you should learn how to communicate effectively.
You're right, I do like the Model 3. In fact I am seriously considering the Model 3 Performance Highland later this year. At that time I should cut loose one of my cars. Probably the TSX, but I flat out love that car. Just put Michelin Pilot AS rubber on, drives great. 220K and is perfect!
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OVERKILL
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And those are the scenarios where some sort of standard so that the kWh consumed is communicated and tax can be paid. These functions are already available in the charge port standard and I expect a smart meter would be able to access it.
It we want it to be most similar to how we pay tax with fuel, putting on the kWh consumed is like-for-like and wouldn't be that hard to implement.
Sounds like we should pay road tax through the DMV instead to me.
The one on the bottom pays 5-25% Municipal substation tax on its “fuel” which the other does not.
Historically you could get road tax back on off-road but state critters don’t like off-road fuel
Im paying $129/year more for EV registration. Missouri.
I don't know what to say to you Jk. I have never seen where you admit you were wrong about so many things, when called out you do not respond just carry on with some other subject. I do not keep track because I couldn't care less but I am not wrong with the taxes ev drivers don't pay, there is something obviously wrong as your own state is looking at a revenue short fall and blaming it on ev's. You prefer to shoot the guy posting the story and the people who wrote the article than blame the actual culprit, your own state.
The point is you post on this forum like the tesla brand ambassador, the all things tesla expert and in reality you have had the car almost 6 years and only put by your own admission 19K on it. Cripes the way you carry on it sounded like you long tripped the thing and were an authority on charging and the "learning curve", I would not be surprised if it was on the original tires. Sorry but yes it is hilarious, hence the LOL.
Gas tax aside, just wait til the day electric utility companies start charging a surcharge because the grid must be updated to support EV demands.
Scott
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Everyone is going to pay through the nose.
At least until the whole EV craze collapses.
Yes indeed, everyone will pay. All the apartment complexes that the law will eventually require EV chargers for every resident - you may live in a single family home but you're going to pay for it.
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Wait - you have an at home EV charging system ? My goodness - that’s adding home value !!! Texas tax man will figure that one out LoL …
I appreciate the article from the British based Daily Mail, however, the number of EV’s in California is about 3% of the total registrations. The sales are pretty sexy, at 25% but California has a lot of cars. The article assumes steadily increasing yearly sales over the next 10 years so really those pundits are talking about a problem that may or may not develop.
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