I noticed that here. I was talking to a guy that owns a Camry hybrid and at the time the EV tax was $100. He was paying $75 for his hybrid. I couldn't see how that was supposed to make sense. I'd have to check and see what the rate is now, but I'm assuming his doubled as well.
EV sales rise and key revenue from gas tax plunges
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JK, you always pull this I don't believe it crap. How about the same thing another site? You would not know facts if they blew up your backside, the only facts you recognise are ones you make up.
https://www.latimes.com/environment...wth-in-electric-cars-degrade-california-roads
https://www.latimes.com/environment...wth-in-electric-cars-degrade-california-roads
CA is not generally known as a tax haven... Don't ask me how I know.
You citing facts with your anti Tesla avatar is laughable at best.
We've all told you we pay an additional road tax. We pay more in road tax than a driver does in a gas vehicle unless we're covering more than 20,000 miles(at least in my state). What do you want to hear? If the money isn't going to the right place take it up with the government for misappropriating funds. We're paying our bills.
Did you read my post? It seems you missed the point. I did not say the article was false, I said it was incomplete and misleading.
In fact, I bolded a part that largely supported the article; I just expanded on it with reality.
I think the difference between you and me, even when we agree like we do on the road tax revenue decline, is that I look for solution while you do not. I believe you are more than capable to add valid, helpful commentary; you do so on other topics.
I also said the Daily Mail is not considered a reputable publication.
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What inspection? There are none in California. The only time mileage might be reported is during each smog check, and even then it’s possible to avoid it for about eight years with a new car. EVs and CNG powered vehicles are exempt. Maybe fuel cell too, but I don’t see it listed.
Daily Mail might as well be The Onion.
You are not paying a fuel tax. For that reason you should be paying an extra fee per mile of use equal to what the gas tax would be.
You ev owners are basically free riding and it has to stop.
Wrong, at least in California. I listed some of the EV specific fees in my post #34.
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Trav, EV owners are paying a penalty at registration which is greater than what they would pay annually in gas tax if they drive ICE. How is that equitable?
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Really? WOW, well then don’t you worry they will figure something out or just keep raising the registration fee. Somehow though the Fed has to figure out how to collect the 18.4 cents per gallon it collects on gasoline. Maybe cut back highway funds and leave it to the states to collect more on EVs.
I’m quite surprised by your post. I figured CA would be the last place on earth to have no inspections.
My mistake!
Oh wait. Maybe an annual mileage scan for EV owners ?
I pay a ROAD TAX. It is to cover the fuel tax I do not pay. It's not called a fuel tax because I'm not buying fuel. ICE vehicles do not pay the additional road tax because it comes out in the fuel tax.
Am I speaking English?
That's news to me too. I thought they did like New York. I've lived in mostly rural areas in the midwest where I have not seen it so I haven't dealt with it much. Phoenix had the inspections, but I don't think most of Arizona itself did. I do not know that for sure.
There's some weird claims that California requires an annual inspection, but it's news to me since I've never had to get one in decades. This claim is just odd.
Do I Need a Safety Inspection in California?
Yes. In addition to annual smog inspections, or emissions checks as they’re technically called, you’ll also need to bring your vehicle into a certified repair shop for a yearly safety inspection. CA state safety inspections are required “to make sure that all vehicles used on public roads are in good condition and safe to drive”.
This is just flat out wrong. There are licensed auto repair places that can do headlight and vehicle inspections, but that usually only required when one is pulled over and the vehicle is suspected of being in inadequate driving condition. I've had to get a headlamp inspection a few times for a fix it ticket for a burned out headlamp, but that could be done by any state "peace officer" for free if one can be tracked down. I remember once I just a saw a police car parked on the side of the road and asked if the officer if he could sign off that my headlamp was working and he said he's asked to do it on a regular basis.
CA does not have annual inspections or any scheduled inspections. A Peace Officer can give you a fix-it ticket, but that's about all that I know of.
We have biannual smog tests for most cars.
We have biannual smog tests for most cars.
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A tax on kWh reported by the car through the charge port solves this. It's the same as paying per litre or per gallon. Charging at home, the car communicates the kWh it pulls to your smart meter. Public charge stations already know how many kWh you buy, so that's even easier.
A gas tax is flat rate, for every gallon of gas you burn you create a presumed amount of road wear. Drive further? Burn more gas, pay more.
Federal and state gas taxes generally only pay for numbered highways, and even then they don't typically cover all costs. Certainly local roads are paid for with general funds.
This hasn't increased since the mid 1990s and is so low it's not something to be proud of. Income does not meet expenditures.
https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2023-10/59634.pdf
Not everything communicates outside of rudimentary information about the vehicle. When I've plugged into a Tesla Destination Charger, it doesn't report anything and doesn't care. I don't think ChargePoint or similar worry about the car, but rather the user account.
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