Euro specialized indy-mechanics all seem to use LiquiMoly?

[OVERKILL]

Did somebody say Liquimoly?

 

[loneryder]

My cars are still under warranty so I usually take them to a Porsche or Euro specialized Indy who reports service to Carfax and documents the change. One thing I noticed is that whenever I ask them what oil they use, it’s always LiquiMoly.

Kind of curious but does LiquiMoly just dominate the market with much cheaper pricing for independent mechanics or something?

(Yes, I know I can document my DIY oil change but it’s a pain when reselling the car or when proving service for warranty purposes).

My MB/BMW indy shop switched to LM because it was quite a bit cheaper than Mobil 1 that he used for years. It's cheaper and has 229.5 on it.

 

[bdcardinal]

They appear to be a wholesaler...do they have retail locations or an online presence open to the public?

They are a drop shipper for Rock Auto.

 

[f355spider]

They are a drop shipper for Rock Auto.

Okay, not unlike "partscontainer" on ebay. I order stuff and sometimes it comes from their warehouse, other times fulfilled by a wholesaler in my home state.

 

[bdcardinal]

Okay, not unlike "partscontainer" on ebay. I order stuff and sometimes it comes from their warehouse, other times fulfilled by a wholesaler in my home state.

Their prices are so-so for a lot of parts. They have a really nice selection and broad choice of brands which is nice.

 

[TurboZedd-R]

I would argue it also has an exclusivity component as well. Anyone can get an off the shelf oil but not everyone knows to order from an online euro shop like ECS or FCP euro. Same thing can be said for Amsoil indys, makes you feel like the shop has something "special".

 

[Marcozi]

Be advised that LiquiMoly uses a type 3 base stock. Sooo, on its US website it can claim that it's a synthetic oil. However, it can't make that claim on its German website. Why? While the US courts ruled that like Mobil 1, LiquiMoly is "synthetic." The German courts have ruled that the base stock must be either type 4 or 5 for an oil to be advertised as being "synthetic."

 

[OVERKILL]

Be advised that LiquiMoly uses a type 3 base stock. Sooo, on its US website it can claim that it's a synthetic oil. However, it can't make that claim on its German website. Why? While the US courts ruled that like Mobil 1, LiquiMoly is "synthetic." The German courts have ruled that the base stock must be either type 4 or 5 for an oil to be advertised as being "synthetic."

Post in thread 'Penzoil Platinum 100% Synthetic ????'

Dec 15, 2019

Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
overkill
For the 31st time, what's the difference - since the oil producers are now allowed to print that the Group-3 in the jug is all synthetic?

Sure sounds to me like BBB had the authority and was court-like, in ruling judgement here. Otherwise, no.

But the BBB-verdict to allow it, was indeed court-like, much like an arbitration panel that many businesses use.

In other words, it is a business court that ruled Group 3 is full synthetic. Court is Court..... whether it be government, private or otherwise.



The difference is that when you say "the...

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[scrllock]

Be advised that LiquiMoly uses a type 3 base stock. Sooo, on its US website it can claim that it's a synthetic oil. However, it can't make that claim on its German website. Why? While the US courts ruled that like Mobil 1, LiquiMoly is "synthetic." The German courts have ruled that the base stock must be either type 4 or 5 for an oil to be advertised as being "synthetic."

Most, yes. Their Synthoil line is "vollsynthetisch," i.e. not hydrocracked, but has no manufacturer approvals and doesn't appear to be any better than their HC products based on their data sheets.

 

[Patman]

I have always put Liquimoly in the same category as Royal Purple. The hype of both is greater than the actual quality.

 

[wings&wheels]

Oddly the two Indy's I use here are Motul disciples. LM is inexpensive, and I hear their distis are easy to deal with and offer a 'one stop shop'. I never used LM as back in the day I remember them selling friction modifier, and other snake oil type additives which was enough to turn me offf....I could be wrong but there are probably better choices for your money.

 

[mckenzie333]

Oddly the two Indy's I use here are Motul disciples. LM is inexpensive, and I hear their distis are easy to deal with and offer a 'one stop shop'. I never used LM as back in the day I remember them selling friction modifier, and other snake oil type additives which was enough to turn me offf....I could be wrong but there are probably better choices for your money.

I wonder if Motul 8100 excess 2nd gen is full synthetic- their advertising suggests it is

 

[edyvw]

I wonder if Motul 8100 excess 2nd gen is full synthetic- their advertising suggests it is

Group III. Good one though considering KV100 and HTHS.

 

[mckenzie333]

Group III. Good one though considering KV100 and HTHS.

Their advertising is indecipherable lol

 

[edyvw]

Their advertising is indecipherable lol

Everyone in the US is advertising as full synthetic.

 

[mckenzie333]

Without Bob is the oil Guy and friends these inquiries would be really difficult

 

[ChristianReske]

Everyone in the US is advertising as full synthetic.

But please remember: On BITOG, one have to allways blame LM for wrong advertising and allways praise Motul for being "Fully Synthetic with Ester".

 

[edyvw]

But please remember: On BITOG, one have to allways blame LM for wrong advertising and allways praise Motul for being "Fully Synthetic with Ester".

Motul, unlike LM, does offer ester based products.
LM also offers unique oils, I mean if you look at amount of heavy paraffinic base oils.

 

[wavinwayne]

LiquiMoly makes a fine oil for my 535d, but it's almost twice the price of the Pennzoil Euro L with the same BMW LL-04 spec. so...

 

[TiGeo]

LiquiMoly makes a fine oil for my 535d, but it's almost twice the price of the Pennzoil Euro L with the same BMW LL-04 spec. so...

Just get it from FCP Euro which substantially reduces the cost if you want to run it.