Electric Jeep cancelled.

[alarmguy]

They do not, lol.
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Jaded by Consumer Reports? Maybe and also online repair shops.
Owner Satisfaction by Brand Jeep in consumer reports is at the bottom, dead bottom of a list 27 brands coming in at #27 of 27

It's the May/June 2025 Issue page 103 I dont think I can repost the list from the magazine copyright unless they posted it online to the public.

Anyway, Rivian #1, BMW #2, Tesla #3 and following order Porsche, Lexus, Chevrolet, Lincoln, Subaru, Genesis, Ford, GMC, Hyundai, Toyota, Honda, Cadillac, Kia, Volvo, Mazda, Acura, Audi, Buick, Ram, Chrysler, Nissan, VW, Mercedes, and last Jeep.

Plus my own experience that Jeep Grand Cherokee's were having hood corrosion issues for more than a half decade. I ended up returning a low milage still under factory warranty, Grand Cherokee to Carvana during covid once I saw the corrosion starting after they dropped it off. So I guess I am jaded. But glad there is a publication out there that says they arent bad.

Ps in the same issue for Compact SUV's Jeep Grand Cherokee is #2 most satisfying.

 

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Jaded by Consumer Reports? Maybe and also online repair shops.
Owner Satisfaction by Brand Jeep in consumer reports is at the bottom, dead bottom of a list 27 brands coming in at #27 of 27

It's the May/June 2025 Issue page 103 I dont think I can repost the list from the magazine copyright unless they posted it online to the public.

Anyway, Rivian #1, BMW #2, Tesla #3 and following order Porsche, Lexus, Chevrolet, Lincoln, Subaru, Genesis, Ford, GMC, Hyundai, Toyota, Honda, Cadillac, Kia, Volvo, Mazda, Acura, Audi, Buick, Ram, Chrysler, Nissan, VW, Mercedes, and last Jeep.

Plus my own experience that Jeep Grand Cherokee's were having hood corrosion issues for more than a half decade. I ended up returning a low milage still under factory warranty, Grand Cherokee to Carvana during covid once I saw the corrosion starting after they dropped it off. So I guess I am jaded. But glad there is a publication out there that says they arent bad.

Ps in the same issue for Compact SUV's Jeep Grand Cherokee is #2 most satisfying.

Haters gonna hate. This is the issue with CR - Galvanic corrosion on a hood (They used steel hinges with aluminum hood -which I agree is pretty pathetic and predictable) is treated the same as major engine failure.

My definition of reliable is it didn't leave me stranded somewhere and ran for a really long time. CR only tracks for 5 years - another issue. Paint bubbles on the hood - ya that sucks, but its a first world problem.

Everyone has there own scale I guess.

 

[alarmguy]

Haters gonna hate. This is the issue with CR - Galvanic corrosion on a hood (They used steel hinges with aluminum hood -which I agree is pretty pathetic and predictable) is treated the same as major engine failure.

My definition of reliable is it didn't leave me stranded somewhere and ran for a really long time. CR only tracks for 5 years - another issue. Paint bubbles on the hood - ya that sucks, but its a first world problem.

Everyone has there own scale I guess.

I am on the other side of that statement. Here is why. What if you bought a 40 to 50k Grand Cherokee and the hood started corroding in less than 4 years? Sorry but I would freak out. Jeep would have a local shop evaluate (not jeep themselves) and determine if the hood gets fixed, ground down along that seem and resealed then repainted or a new hood gets put on which still had to get painted. The body shop makes the call, repair or replace. Not Jeep.

I had a beautiful deep blue one delivered to my house by Carvana. After two days of examining it AND a friend who is a master mechanic at Dodge conversation and with a body shop, I called Carvana and told them to come get the truck. Who would want a corroding hood? Only to be resealed or replaced and repainted by a body shop? I am not one of those people.

I have a mint condition 2017 Traverse right now that I bought after returning the Jeep back during covid. No rust or corrosion.

 

[cptbarkey]

Electric jeep canceled.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/09/stellantis-scraps-jeep-chrysler-phevs-amid-ev-slowdown-recall.html

Good. It was a terrible idea from the beginning.

 

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I am on the other side of that statement. Here is why. What if you bought a 40 to 50k Grand Cherokee and the hood started corroding in less than 4 years? Sorry but I would freak out. Jeep would have a local shop evaluate (not jeep themselves) and determine if the hood gets fixed, ground down along that seem and resealed then repainted or a new hood gets put on which still had to get painted. The body shop makes the call, repair or replace. Not Jeep.

I had a beautiful deep blue one delivered to my house by Carvana. After two days of examining it AND a friend who is a master mechanic at Dodge conversation and with a body shop, I called Carvana and told them to come get the truck. Who would want a corroding hood? Only to be resealed or replaced and repainted by a body shop? I am not one of those people.

I have a mint condition 2017 Traverse right now that I bought after returning the Jeep back during covid. No rust or corrosion.

What year was the hood corrosion? I haven't seen it on the WK2's, but our old 2002 Expedition had that problem, the paint along the front (aluminum hood) delaminating.

 

[SammyChevelleTypeS3]

Now you've got Iran, with its economy in total shambles, and the totalitarian government over there on the verge of total collapse. They are soaked to their very core in oil. Trump has already told them if they keep hurting and killing civilians over there we're going to drop the hammer.

After what just happened to their nuclear facilities, you can bet they're taking him seriously. When that government goes the same way as Maduro's did, look for Iran's oil to come under the guard and control of the U.S.

By the end of his term this country will be controlling A LOT of oil and refining in both countries. And have bases all over Greenland to be sure. I would bet on gas going anywhere but up over the next few years. And that will end up being the coup de gras for the EV industry.... Not that it ever was much to begin with.

All true and good news. YET we can not forget the fickleness of the American public. Many of us who get played like a fiddle daily by the out of control news media. They are totally after viewer and advertising dollars and could care less the turmoil and lives they disrupt daily.
I have been doing the best I can to avoid watching anything but weather and sports lately.

It appears that we can not even go 2 to 4 years without everything (good or bad) our genius politicians contrive (while looking out for themselves mostly), gets abruptly turned on its head and even reversed every time there is either a POTUS or a mid term election and the Yo Yo effect wrings us all out to dry. We have to accept it - like it or not as it is what keeps us a so called Free Nation. It has got to be getting almost impossible for firms to know what to invest and plan for further than every two years because of all the division.

 

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What year was the hood corrosion? I haven't seen it on the WK2's, but our old 2002 Expedition had that problem, the paint along the front (aluminum hood) delaminating.

Before WK2. I ran into it when researching used cars. They went to aluminum hoods early and didn't separate the hood from the steel hinge well enough - galvanic corrosion. I am surprised @alarmguy saw it so recently - they supposedly had it fixed.

Still, 5 YO car, I would rather have bubbling paint than the engine problems many seem to be having these days. Not trying to say its not a potential issue, but there is a scale. Also here in the South likely we would never even see galvanic - you still need salt or something to get it started.

 

[OVERKILL]

Before WK2. I ran into it when researching used cars. They went to aluminum hoods early and didn't separate the hood from the steel hinge well enough - galvanic corrosion. I am surprised @alarmguy saw it so recently - they supposedly had it fixed.

Still, 5 YO car, I would rather have bubbling paint than the engine problems many seem to be having these days. Not trying to say its not a potential issue, but there is a scale. Also here in the South likely we would never even see galvanic - you still need salt or something to get it started.

Yeah, I've owned 3x WK2's and never seen it, and COVID would have been a WK2

 

[alarmguy]

What year was the hood corrosion? I haven't seen it on the WK2's, but our old 2002 Expedition had that problem, the paint along the front (aluminum hood) delaminating.

The vehicle was either a 2017 or 2018 at the time. If you search Jeep Grand Cherokee corrosion issues you will come up with pages.
However I just did this one search, I knew the Grand Cherokee issue was well over 5 years running but according to this technical service bulletin it is astounding that it's gone on for so long.
I knew it at the time, verified by my friend and a shop I spoke to but didnt want to exaggerate how long its been an issue. For almost a decade now this has been going on. After we returned the Grand Cherokee to Carvana, my wife and I would look at Grand Cherokee's hoods in parking lots as we walked by and sure enough, the issue was there on a certain number of them.
Maybe this is why the low satisfaction score? I dont know but I would freak out as I like to keep my stuff, motorcycle, cars, boat new like condition.

https://www.tsbsearch.com/Jeep/31-001-24

 

[NiwradND]

Galvanic starts with just the two metals (steel and Aluminum) being stuck against each other. It doesn't matter what the environment is or isn't. I had a 2017 Grand Cherokee with a bubble starting on the hood due to a metal flake stuck on the aluminum before painting. Repainted under warranty which I didn't like but stuff happens. I had a 11,17 and now a 2020 Grand Cherokee, I would not buy another brand of SUV today. The hood was the only trouble I had with them and ran them up to 100,000 miles.

 

[alarmguy]

Before WK2. I ran into it when researching used cars. They went to aluminum hoods early and didn't separate the hood from the steel hinge well enough - galvanic corrosion. I am surprised @alarmguy saw it so recently - they supposedly had it fixed.

Still, 5 YO car, I would rather have bubbling paint than the engine problems many seem to be having these days. Not trying to say its not a potential issue, but there is a scale. Also here in the South likely we would never even see galvanic - you still need salt or something to get it started.

See the post with the link above - Post #89 still a problem in 2024 for some vehicles.
9 years running on the Grand Cherokee
Never say never unless you have seen what I have here in the South
See @NiwradND post # 90 as well

 

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The vehicle was either a 2017 or 2018 at the time. If you search Jeep Grand Cherokee corrosion issues you will come up with pages.
However I just did this one search, I knew the Grand Cherokee issue was well over 5 years running but according to this technical service bulletin it is astounding that it's gone on for so long.
I knew it at the time, verified by my friend and a shop I spoke to but didnt want to exaggerate how long its been an issue. For almost a decade now this has been going on. After we returned the Grand Cherokee to Carvana, my wife and I would look at Grand Cherokee's hoods in parking lots as we walked by and sure enough, the issue was there on a certain number of them.
Maybe this is why the low satisfaction score? I dont know but I would freak out as I like to keep my stuff, motorcycle, cars, boat new like condition.

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https://www.tsbsearch.com/Jeep/31-001-24

I don't think a TSB addressing how to treat corrosion is indicative of a widespread problem. As I said, I've owned 3x GC's and never seen it. You can find the same TSB's for basically any other marque on that site, like Toyota for example:

 

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See the post with the link above - Post #89 still a problem in 2024 for some vehicles.
9 years running on the Grand Cherokee
Never say never unless you have seen what I have here in the South
See @NiwradND post # 90 as well

Was it white by chance?

 

[alarmguy]

Galvanic starts with just the two metals (steel and Aluminum) being stuck against each other. It doesn't matter what the environment is or isn't. I had a 2017 Grand Cherokee with a bubble starting on the hood due to a metal flake stuck on the aluminum before painting. Repainted under warranty which I didn't like but stuff happens. I had a 11,17 and now a 2020 Grand Cherokee, I would not buy another brand of SUV today. The hood was the only trouble I had with them and ran them up to 100,000 miles.

Thanks for commenting on your experience. This is a tough group in here trying to get a point across sometimes! *LOL*
Here is a photo taken from the TSB in the link I provided. I suspect you had the same exact issue on your 2017/
This photo represents exactly the issue I had as well. In fact the color of the vehicle seems to match the color we had. I REALLY wanted the truck but I couldnt keep it and didnt want Carvana's time to return to run out.
I am glad to hear you have not had mechanical issues though, because I still love the Grand Cherokee.
After Carvana delivered the truck to us, this is exactly but maybe a little smaller that I noticed along the leading edge of the hood. I thought to myself wow, a truck with less then 30,000 miles I saw these small bubbles all along the front edge. I was in disbelief.

 

[alarmguy]

Was it white by chance?

See post above # 94 *LOL*

I think that color is the exact color we had if anything it was a deeper blue. I loved it. but ...

 

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It doesn't matter what the environment is or isn't

I believe the rest of your story but this is incorrect. Galvanic is dis-similar metals in an electrolyte. They technically form a very week battery - and electrons move from the metal of higher potential (anode) to the metal of lower potential (cathode). You require the two materials to touch each other, and you must have a electrolyte. Pure water is not an electrolyte. Salt water is.

You won't see this issue where there is no salt - road salt, ocean salt, whatever.

Most OEM's rely on the paint / sealant which I think is a mistake. They should use some sort of thin nylon gasket or something? I have considered doing something to my Toyota - it has aluminum hood / fenders / hatch. However its in the South and sits in the garage most of the time?

 

[NiwradND]

mine was silver, but all it takes is a metal flake on the bare aluminum, steel and aluminum against each other cause corrosion, you need to have a barrier between the two metals. That is why aluminum rims stick to the steel drums.

 

[alarmguy]

mine was silver, but all it takes is a metal flake on the bare aluminum, steel and aluminum against each other cause corrosion, you need to have a barrier between the two metals. That is why aluminum rims stick to the steel drums.

Also
Electrolysis does take place with pure water however at a much slower rate. Thing is, there is no pure water either. All water, car washes, home water have minerals in them. Rain water is not pure either. The minerals can be seen on black painted cars of all water sources. Even salt air... either way, who can argue, this is an issue. Maybe why the dissatisfaction reported, that I dont know, but OMG the internet is loaded with discussions and upset people on this subject. Even tap water can have low levels of salt compounds. I was sure not to buy a Northern automobile, whether or not it was exposed to salt compounds in anywhere in the south should not have been a concern. Even if that was the case.

 

[OVERKILL]

Also
Electrolysis does take place with pure water however at a much slower rate. Thing is, there is no pure water either. All water, car washes, home water have minerals in them. Rain water is not pure either. The minerals can be seen on black painted cars of all water sources. Even salt air... either way, who can argue, this is an issue. Maybe why the dissatisfaction reported, that I dont know, but OMG the internet is loaded with discussions and upset people on this subject. Even tap water can have low levels of salt compounds. I was sure not to buy a Northern automobile, whether or not it was exposed to salt compounds in anywhere in the south should not have been a concern. Even if that was the case.

I'm in a northern climate and mine is now 6 years old I'd never even heard of this until you brought it up.

 

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Also
Electrolysis does take place with pure water however at a much slower rate. Thing is, there is no pure water either. All water, car washes, home water have minerals in them. Rain water is not pure either. The minerals can be seen on black painted cars of all water sources. Even salt air... either way, who can argue, this is an issue. Maybe why the dissatisfaction reported, that I dont know, but OMG the internet is loaded with discussions and upset people on this subject. Even tap water can have low levels of salt compounds. I was sure not to buy a Northern automobile, whether or not it was exposed to salt compounds in anywhere in the south should not have been a concern. Even if that was the case.

There aren't enough Ions in plain water to cause any real amount of galvanic corrosion. The minerals in dust are generally not something that is going to turn a water in to a electrolyte. You need something like salt to create that reaction.

If its corroding outside a salt bath or similar, its not galvanic. Could be plain old rust or just crappy paint, but everything I have read about this says it is