Do not do this.

[Mud]

Originally Posted By: 01rangerx
what I can't figure out is why these "tot moms" (media term) don't use contraceptives if they aren't interested in being parents? It's not a mystery where babies come from.


MONEY

the government rewards this with more cash in the monthly welfare check

 

[CourierDriver]

http://thestir.cafemom.com/baby/138453/potsmoking_mom_who_left_baby?next=51 here is the little princess now

 

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: 95busa
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Originally Posted By: 95busa
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Actually I do feel pretty good about the fact that I've never gotten high off locking someone up for smoking a naturally occurring plant.



Naturally occuring, much like the coca plant, the opium poppy, etc. Lots of things are natural, it doesnt make them good for you or anyone else.

Both of which require processing to extract the active ingredients (pot doesn't). And the US has knowingly allowed massive poppy farming in Afghanistan in the name of stability.

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If you are cool with legal weed, maybe we should legalize it, like amsterdam. The netherlands....a heck of an economic and global powerhouse! [censored], lets legalize it all. Look how well it works for them!


Amsterdam wouldn't have much if it wasn't for tourism, which in large part comes from their "coffee shops." It's not truly legal in the Netherlands, or anywhere else in the world.

Look at how well prohibition works for us.

A number of factual inaccuracies....people in areas where the coca plant grow chew it, getting high from the leaf. As far as Afghanistan goes....it isn't our country. Perhaps you have heard of Karzai? The SFOR agreement does not allow us to do certain things, like eradicate the country's main cash crop. Not to say I agree with that, but they are a soveriegn (although occupied) country. Also- Opiates have many legitimate medical uses, unlike pot, which is a schedule 1 Controlled Dangerous Substance, with no medicinal value. This despite what those poor people with glaucoma tell you. I watch enough of the shows about the "medicinal" weed shops to know there were a heck of a lot of young healthy folks buying weed for "medicinal" reasons.


Chewing coca leaves will have hardly the same effect as a line of coke up the nose. Speaking of coke, that's a schedule II, so you think it's less damaging? The controlled substance schedules are a joke.

Pot has the same primary benefit of opiates (pain killer) but isn't as strong. It also doesn't have the severe withdrawal, severe health consequences, or severe risk of developing a deadly addiction. Opiate addiction is NASTY and often ends with shooting up heroin. But that's okay, it's not that pesky weed and is very profitable for the pharmaceutical industry thanks in large part to junkies.

 

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Except for the fact that every other demographic group including the last three presidents also uses/have used.


And looking at the sorry state of affairs we are dealing with, this is your proof that weed is OK?

Okay, maybe not the best example, but I don't think it contributed to our state of affairs. It does point out the enormous hypocrisy of our drug laws though.

 

[heyu]

She will prob come up with the excuse she wanted to spare it from second hand smoke

 

[95busa]

Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Originally Posted By: 95busa
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Originally Posted By: 95busa

Actually I do feel pretty good about the fact that I've never gotten high off locking someone up for smoking a naturally occurring plant.



Naturally occuring, much like the coca plant, the opium poppy, etc. Lots of things are natural, it doesnt make them good for you or anyone else.

Both of which require processing to extract the active ingredients (pot doesn't). And the US has knowingly allowed massive poppy farming in Afghanistan in the name of stability.

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If you are cool with legal weed, maybe we should legalize it, like amsterdam. The netherlands....a heck of an economic and global powerhouse! [censored], lets legalize it all. Look how well it works for them!


Amsterdam wouldn't have much if it wasn't for tourism, which in large part comes from their "coffee shops." It's not truly legal in the Netherlands, or anywhere else in the world.

Look at how well prohibition works for us.

A number of factual inaccuracies....people in areas where the coca plant grow chew it, getting high from the leaf. As far as Afghanistan goes....it isn't our country. Perhaps you have heard of Karzai? The SFOR agreement does not allow us to do certain things, like eradicate the country's main cash crop. Not to say I agree with that, but they are a soveriegn (although occupied) country. Also- Opiates have many legitimate medical uses, unlike pot, which is a schedule 1 Controlled Dangerous Substance, with no medicinal value. This despite what those poor people with glaucoma tell you. I watch enough of the shows about the "medicinal" weed shops to know there were a heck of a lot of young healthy folks buying weed for "medicinal" reasons.


The schedule of controlled dangerous substances is not based purely on potential for abuse, it is also based on medicinal use. Cocaine is a very good vascular constrictor with great value in some surgeries as an anesthetic. How are opiates profitable to the pharmecutical industry thanks to junkies? Nobody is selling black-tar heroin from a pharmacy. You can continue to make excuses if you wish. Perhaps your momma should have taught you "two wrongs don't make a right". Mine did.....try living by that for a minute- and when you are wrong, be man enough to admit you are wrong.

 

[andrewg]

Why is it that nearly 100% of all morons dye their hair that color? Pot...booze...both impairs judgement. She's probably an idiot with or without either. I'm no supporter of the pro-pot crowd however. I'm not so sure it should be legalized as I have serious disgust for the whole habit and the general social type that partakes. In my perfect little fantasy world in my head...there would be no pot, booze, or otherwise mind altering substances that complete losers in our society could get hooked on. But....that's just a fantasy. In reality the world is truly a disheartening place. I feel sorry for the child this 'mother' has produced. That child did not ask to be brought into a world where even it's own parent is a danger.

 

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: 95busa

The schedule of controlled dangerous substances is not based purely on potential for abuse, it is also based on medicinal use. Cocaine is a very good vascular constrictor with great value in some surgeries as an anesthetic.

It's also a great way to get higher than pot and have a heart attack.

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How are opiates profitable to the pharmecutical industry thanks to junkies? Nobody is selling black-tar heroin from a pharmacy. You can continue to make excuses if you wish.

You think all those pills get consumed by people in legitimate need? Tons of people sell off their prescriptions or are able to continue getting a prescription they don't need. You should be well aware of the fact that street dealers can get these drugs no problem. It starts with the innocent little Oxycodone and ends with heroin.

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Perhaps your momma should have taught you "two wrongs don't make a right". Mine did.....try living by that for a minute- and when you are wrong, be man enough to admit you are wrong.

Get over yourself.

 

[demarpaint]

I'm glad to see people in agreement with me. IMO you'll never be able to stop people from smoking weed, or doing drugs, ever. Once it gets outside of the confines of the person's dwelling it becomes an issue, and the law should come down hard.

 

[95busa]

Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Originally Posted By: 95busa

The schedule of controlled dangerous substances is not based purely on potential for abuse, it is also based on medicinal use. Cocaine is a very good vascular constrictor with great value in some surgeries as an anesthetic.

It's also a great way to get higher than pot and have a heart attack.

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How are opiates profitable to the pharmecutical industry thanks to junkies? Nobody is selling black-tar heroin from a pharmacy. You can continue to make excuses if you wish.

You think all those pills get consumed by people in legitimate need? Tons of people sell off their prescriptions or are able to continue getting a prescription they don't need. You should be well aware of the fact that street dealers can get these drugs no problem. It starts with the innocent little Oxycodone and ends with heroin.

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Perhaps your momma should have taught you "two wrongs don't make a right". Mine did.....try living by that for a minute- and when you are wrong, be man enough to admit you are wrong.

Get over yourself.


Quit being a loser.

 

[Artem]

Originally Posted By: PZR2874
Originally Posted By: Zaedock
"I was gonna strap in my kid....but then I got high"...



I see what you did there... hahahaha

Ex-kush smoker here for 5-6 years. (and i mean the extremely good stuff with purple hairs and crystals)

Anyways, i used to deliver pizza back in the day and puff the pipe ALL DAY LONG while driving. A few puffs just to get a buzz while still being completely normal and not have customers notice / smell anything.

Once the lobby closed @ 10pm, i'd seriously blaze up along with the manager and other drivers who have been smoking for years. None of us ever had a single issue on the road over the course of the 3 years i drove there.

@ 2-3am after closing, we'd blaze up like there's no tomorrow and go home. Again, not a single issue and i'd see the same guys @ 11am when the store reopened in the morning. A few more puffs to "wake n bake" before the day got started.

My point in all of this is that, about 6 of us were perfectly fine being high on the job and still able to take phone orders properly, talk to walk in customers, make pizzas and deliver those pizzas without setting the place on fire or getting a DUI.

The chick in the OP is from the party crowd and usually mixes weed with who knows what else (including alcohol) and IMO, that's what really sets it off and caused people to do really stupid stuff.

FYI, i moved on to bigger, better things after the pizza place job and have been THC free for over 2 years now. My reasons for quitting were my health (mine and the offspring I'll reproduce after marriage) as well as religious reasons.

BTW, most of the guys are still working at the pizza place and as far as i know (i stop by there often to make myself a pizza (benifits

) and they are still there, doing the same ol' thing (even though the place is now under a different owner - the previous lost the business due to unpaid taxes because of a poor accountant.)

Although i'm against weed now, it's not as bad as people think. It all depends on the person using it. If they don't have much of a brain to begin with, it doesn't matter what they cloud their judgement with.

 

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: 95busa

Quit being a loser.


Good argument! You sure got me! You know nothing about me other than I support the legalization of pot.

But that's okay, because you're BIG MAN and your momma done raised you real good!

 

[KrisZ]

Originally Posted By: Artem
BTW, most of the guys are still working at the pizza place and as far as i know (i stop by there often to make myself a pizza (benifits

) and they are still there, doing the same ol' thing (even though the place is now under a different owner - the previous lost the business due to unpaid taxes because of a poor accountant.



So, a bunch of guys working a pizza place for their entire life, with no future prospects and willingness for self improvement is proof that weed is OK to use?

I don't know if it's me or the pro-weed arguments are all "out there" and they further solidify the notion that it is good this stuff is illegal.

 

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: KrisZ

I don't know if it's me or the pro-weed arguments are all "out there" and they further solidify the notion that it is good this stuff is illegal.


I think it's a little odd the person who is most adamantly against pot seems to be making excuses for cocaine and opiates.

 

[Artem]

Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Originally Posted By: Artem
BTW, most of the guys are still working at the pizza place and as far as i know (i stop by there often to make myself a pizza (benifits

) and they are still there, doing the same ol' thing (even though the place is now under a different owner - the previous lost the business due to unpaid taxes because of a poor accountant.



So, a bunch of guys working a pizza place for their entire life, with no future prospects and willingness for self improvement is proof that weed is OK to use?

I don't know if it's me or the pro-weed arguments are all "out there" and they further solidify the notion that it is good this stuff is illegal.


Why do you automatically assume that we were all low lives with no plans for the future?

Allow me to describe the guys i worked it...

Three 18+ year old guys who attend college and deliver pizza part time to make CASH! We made $100 after expenses on a daily basis while working the rush shift from 6-9pm + hourly pay. You do the math.

Another was a 35 year old Indian guy who supports his wife and 4 kids from the paycheck. He was the night manager.

The morning manager is 60 years old and has been smoking for over 20 years. By looking at him, you couldn't tell he's 60 and has been puffing on grass for the last 20 years.

Then of course there's me, who was also going to college and working there full time. Like i've said, i've moved on and have my own online business while doing detailing and maintenance work as a hobby / extra cash on the side.

I'm now married and about to have my first baby.
I also play the drums in my church during each and every worship service.

Not everyone who smokes herb looks or acts like the chick in the OP.

 

[KrisZ]

Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Originally Posted By: KrisZ

I don't know if it's me or the pro-weed arguments are all "out there" and they further solidify the notion that it is good this stuff is illegal.


I think it's a little odd the person who is most adamantly against pot seems to be making excuses for cocaine and opiates.


You have me confused with somebody else

 

[01rangerxl]

You're not the one who is most adamantly against pot and I wasn't calling you out. I was just pointing out how "out there" some of the arguments against it are when they get to the point of justifying and making excuses for far more dangerous substances.

 

[KrisZ]

But you smartened up and gave up this stuff because you realized it will be holding you back and cannot be good for you long term.
So while I agree that some people find that "balance" in their life and will be OK, but most will not, especially teenagers and young adults.

 

[surfstar]

To paraphrase a Chris Rock joke:

Don't do drugs kids; you could end up being a mayor.

or a President.


Drugs (legal or illegal) are not the determining factor in a "ruined/successful" life. It is the character of the person doing them.

 

[KrisZ]

Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
You're not the one who is most adamantly against pot and I wasn't calling you out. I was just pointing out how "out there" some of the arguments against it are when they get to the point of justifying and making excuses for far more dangerous substances.


You replied to me and you even put my quote in your response. Since I can't read minds, the next logical conclusion was that you replied to me.

I'm not against pot, believe it or not, but I am against legalizing pot. This is because there is this notion spread around that pot is basically the perfect substance. You can't get addicted to it (so they say), you don't have a hang over (so they say), and you can't overdose. So basically there are no negatives just the positive buzz. EXCEPT your mind goes to mush.
If this stuff is legalized what do you think will happen in high schools and colleges? We have a pretty uneducated youth as is and if we tell them that pot is free for their taking and it has zero negative effects, most will reach for it and thus, further lower our pool of educated professionals.