Did I screw up with SynLube?

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This was great detective work for all involved. Great rebuttals for all of Miro's lame excuses.

Now all this information, will be available for all to see, whenever a internet user, chooses to search on Synlube.

You give someone enough rope, and they do the job for you!
 
Seriously it was fun, I did enjoy it for a while, but this guy really starts to …..Me, I would suggest the moderator to ban the IP of that guy, and make a sticky about SYNLUBE with the fact we know so far, behavior online , false representation, all the lie and the Nevada case . This board is made to inform people, and I think it’s important to protect people against that kind of business.
 
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Look on the synlube thread at the other board. he posted the email.


Just read through the thread. This is awesome - It is the recommendation that no one of sound mind use this product.


Bravo everyone.
 
There is only one good thing I can think of about Synlube. And this is it-man, this sure has been FUN! A lot of people at bitgo did an incredible job of exposing all of this.

If jonny-b and his sidekick had not kept insulting me, I probably just would have dropped it and not said anything more about Synlube.

The rebuttals against Synlube are spreading to other websites. This is good. Heck, maybe the State of Nevada might even hear about all of this. Good things do happen in this world occasionally.
 
Originally Posted By: OilMeBob
I didn't quite realize what a poop-storm this thread would have caused. I guess I should have found out first whether or not the problem was lubrication related before posting. And for not doing so, I apologize.

What follows is some pictures. It does not look like any kind of lubrication failure. It looks like something got in the engine. I don't know what or how. I must have fraked up doing some of the mods.

That said, it doesn't look *that* bad to me, I'm no expert. I asked my shop what they think would have happened if we just changed the oil and called it a day. They say it would have seized up and thrown a rod for sure. I'm not so sure. I think if we dropped the pan, sprayed some cleaner from the bottom, changed the oil, maybe a couple of times in close succession, it probably would've been fine. But, I don't know. I do know, as per the other Speed driver here attests to, these cars are known for throwing rods, so, maybe it is for the best that I'm getting it built.

Though, I don't think I have any complaint about SynLube, I will not use it in the future. If for no other reason, if, hypothetically, I have another problem in the future, then the oil will always be a question, as I can see in this forum.

At the time I bought the product, I was not familiar with this site. Had I read some here about the product, I probably would not have gone with it. But, I can't say I had any problem with it either.

Again, since this is not a lubrication issue, I don't think this thread serves much purpose anymore. Here are the pics. The mods can lock or delete this thread if they so choose. Or maybe wait for a few comments about the pics and then lock it. Whatever. Here's the pics:

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I'm no expert on bearing wear, but that looks like both lubrication and filtering failure. While the big streaks look like foreign material damage, the rest of the surface looks like it had a lack of lubrication. I wonder if that Synlube 5w-50 is just too thick at start up.

I have seen bearing wear like that before, but it was usually some long suffering Briggs that went half a decade without oil changes. While lubrication may not have been the direct cause, it played a definite role.

EDIT: Wait, is that the actual bearing surface on that con rod? Or is that just the aluminum con rod? If it is the latter then it looks like the bearing was starting to spin. The Speed 3 DISI engines are also known to have fuel dilution issues known to all DI engines. I wonder if accumulated mileage and fuel dilution do not bode well for lifetime crankcase oil fills. Something still seems fishy here.
 
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Originally Posted By: Trajan
The insults are what drew me in. There is no reason for such behavior.


I don't think they understand

"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging"
 
Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: Trajan
The insults are what drew me in. There is no reason for such behavior.


I don't think they understand

"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging"


"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging". One of my favorite sayings, I use it often. Looks like they're digging over at the other board. They might have hit water here, and are drowning. LOL Entertainment at its best!
 
This thread is so win, I haven't been this amused in a long time. Excellent detective work, everyone who looked into it. I have to say, that the wear on that bearing looks awfully similar to what the conn rod on the briggs and stratton I attempted to kill looked like... Dirt in the oil, and then no oil at all.

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See if you can get some pictures of the piston and bore to compared to these.

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Originally Posted By: rudolphna
This thread is so win, I haven't been this amused in a long time. Excellent detective work, everyone who looked into it. I have to say, that the wear on that bearing looks awfully similar to what the conn rod on the briggs and stratton I attempted to kill looked like... Dirt in the oil, and then no oil at all.



That is it!!! Just that OilMeBob's is not that severe yet!! It is beginning to look more and more like lubrication was the cause of the failure.

Wow, you really got that Briggs hot!! It still amazes me how tough those little engines are.

EDIT: Hey where did OilMeBob's pictures go?
 
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OilMeBob said he changed filters every 10k miles, and he used quality ones. It's hard to imagine that they all failed, and I think they were operating in by-pass mode most of the time, if not 100% of the time. Calgary is pretty cold and with thick Synlube oil in the crank case, it just might be the case.


Also, how did the oil look like, was it thick and goopy, did it have sludge chunks in it? It would be nice to see some pics of the oil pan and the oil itself.
 
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Originally Posted By: boro
Originally Posted By: OilMeBob
I've had my intake manifold off, and it looked like ****. My mechanic said there was more **** than he'd seen in cars with 10x the miles on it. I put water injection in, so, that hopefully makes it better.


That tells us right there that Synlube doesn't live up to it's claims. Personally I'd rather put astroglide in my car after having read all the [censored] on Synlube lately. At least then my car would experience a "pleasant warming sensation" while slowly destroying itself.

Either way, good luck. Sucks that you got pulled into the Synlube "hype".
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I can attest to astroglide being some of the best non-detergent oil on the market today. I'd love to see a VOA on it.
 
Originally Posted By: Ankhmaat
This whole web serves no purpose !

Steve Bell is my name if you need to know and live in Burbank CA, I am 61 and retired and worked as mechanical engineer for 35 years with aerospace companies (quite few of them used to be in Burbank, like lockheed) as to the above where is all the "black" graphite embedded in the bearings that would happen if you really used SynLube ?

To me that is a proof of a poor FAKE attempt to first blame SynLube and now a proof that not even a drop of it was used !!!

None of your scam generators can see that, since you ahve never seen a drop of SynLube in your lifetime, so you can not spot this FAKE SCAM attempt - from "Calgary" !!!

As for e-mails or what ever I get junk mail all the time that is addressed to me from my own e-mail, yet I did not send it !

Sometimes e-mails supposedly from my friends and family come to me even from a person that died 9 years ago, wow they even have Internet now on the other side !!! (Cant wait to die myself !!!)

So some of you more hip computer experts can apparently fake anything to prove that someting is so.

Still no one of you told me how to post a picture, though I asked, but all of you are such experts on how to analyze websites.

Put down products and people you have never met, and so on...

Just like in the past you have accused houkster or what ever or johny to be SynLube, fine with me I'd wish to have multi million dollar business like that.

This really is a pointless web, period

How come you do not dig up smut about companies that lie about everything like SHELL and AMSOIL ?

"First in Synthetics"

That alone is fraudulent statement, no one caught that one ?

Not even US Trademark Office - nice world we live in if honesty is put down and fakery reinforced and glorified.


Hello Steve Bell,pleasure to meet you,my name is Kirk.

I could easily see from your writing style that you are not Miro,wasn't that hard to figure out for some of us!!!

I am also not surprised that a learned man like yourself,....an engineer with a degree,..is actually is using the synlube product like me,with great results!!

I work with engineers myself because by trade, I am an FAA computer specialist working for the government with other fellow lockheed employees,and other Federal engineers.

How are your vehicles running to date,and how many miles is on the oil? I am a user of synlube more than 8 years now,with perfectly running engines.

The alleged user with the piston/rod bearing pictures if I remember correctly,.. heavily "modified" his car. I know of many cases when "motor heads" have blown up their engines using whatever oil. Over reving the engine,mods,fuel wash,severe detonation,stupidity,etc,etc.

Nascar blows up engine all the time,..with mobil one,or whatever. I am not sure what the point of some guy blowing up his motor and then blaming the oil is supposed to show,especially if he admits to mods.

My co-worker blew his 2001 pontiac bonneville sse 3.8 V6 super charged pontiac engine up because of severe knock from a bad knock sensor.

Ponitiac replaced the chewed up motor under warranty.

What pontiac didn't know,and I do, is the car was "heavily" modified by this person,...well over 350hp. He loves to race all the time!! He then put the car back to factory setups,240hp,.. and then went back to the dealership with the car. Happens all the time. Some people are very "resourceful".

Every company,every product,will always have some issues,..those are the ones you usually read about,...The happy customer is usually quiet.

Just wanted to drop you a line.
 
Originally Posted By: captain_kirk


I work with engineers myself because by trade, I am an FAA computer specialist working for the government with other fellow lockheed employees,and other Federal engineers.


Know wonder our government is so far in the hole like it is! Guys like you are helping them dig.
 
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