Crash between Porsche GT3RS and BMW M2.

[edyvw]

We came long way when it comes to safety!
This fairy crash at Nurburgring proves how far we came when it comes to safety. BMW driver is at fault, although some think he did not see properly Porsche driver as it is right hand side vehicle (British plates). Porsche seem to make a move toward BMW. But, it is BMW’s responsibility on track to know surrounding. He supposed to give Porsche more space.
This crash is at approximately 115mph. Porsche is missing complete front end, but passenger compartment seems intact. All three people (2 in BMW) walked away from crash.

 

[slo town]

That's a bad crash. Repeat that 10 times and someone won't ever walk again 9 times. BMW driver blew it but the Porsche driver was forcing things.

Scott

 

[MCompact]

Another take (from an acquaintance) on the 911/M2 shunt; he agrees with all town...

...the BMW was running the Porsche a little close, but the Porsche shouldn’t have tried the move and he shouldn’t have hit the curb.

In the Bimmer’s defense, there are plenty of places on that track, including the one in the video, where relaxing the steering to permit an inside pass can put you at risk of running off the outside. I can see why he felt that he’d allowed enough room. I mean — by SCCA rules, he absolutely gave enough room.

Let’s give thanks for modern automotive engineering; it’s the reason both of these mooks are alive today. But it’s also why you have talentless wheel-wagglers running at triple digits with no concern.

 

[edyvw]

Another take (from an acquaintance) on the 911/M2 shunt; he agrees with all town...

...the BMW was running the Porsche a little close, but the Porsche shouldn’t have tried the move and he shouldn’t have hit the curb.

In the Bimmer’s defense, there are plenty of places on that track, including the one in the video, where relaxing the steering to permit an inside pass can put you at risk of running off the outside. I can see why he felt that he’d allowed enough room. I mean — by SCCA rules, he absolutely gave enough room.

Let’s give thanks for modern automotive engineering; it’s the reason both of these mooks are alive today. But it’s also why you have talentless wheel-wagglers running at triple digits with no concern.

I now see he hit the curb when you mentioned it. Yeah, he was pushing it for sure. When I see someone like that in the mirror on the track, I just back off.

 

[02SE]

In the motorcycle roadracing I've done, it is the responsibility of the one doing the passing, to do so safely.

 

[edyvw]

In the motorcycle roadracing I've done, it is the responsibility of the one doing the passing, to do so safely.

It is responsibility of that one who is overtaking. However, BMW started to close in early.
In reality both are idiots. Porsche could wait better opportunity, and BMW could back off a bit.

 

[Jetronic]

was this a closed session or touristenfahrt? if the latter road rules apply....

 

[Kira]

Glad they walked away too.

Could it be the BMW driver's vision was impeded by his helmet?
Football players wear their helmets well before practices involving contact so they get accustomed to the narrowed field of vision.

Same question as above: Rookies or real racers?

 

[trd1zz]

Glad they walked away from a crash that severe.

That said, many people walk away from crashes but unfortunately many will still suffer severe life altering health issues days, months, even years later as a result.

 

[edyvw]

Glad they walked away too.

Could it be the BMW driver's vision was impeded by his helmet?
Football players wear their helmets well before practices involving contact so they get accustomed to the narrowed field of vision.

Same question as above: Rookies or real racers?

BMW was right hand side steering wheel (British plates). So maybe couldn’t see it on left side properly.
They are just amateurs. Not sure how much experience. That is the most popular track in the world. People rent cars to drive there or like that BMW, drive from other countries to try that track. That is where Lauda burned in 70’s in Formula 1.

 

[rijndael]

Could it be the BMW driver's vision was impeded by his helmet?

A helmet definitely limits your visibility and it's even worse if you add in a Hans.

From the videos I've seen, very few people seem to wear helmets on the regular public days there.

 

[andrew_j]

Hopefully Germany eases back on liability unlike USA. You choose to run around a track you are not liable for anything nor the track. Everyone takes the risk.

They walked off , no big deal and expendable cars destroyed.

 

[rijndael]

Technically, the ring isn't classified as a track. It's a a one-way "derestricted" toll road, a public road.

The classification is important because a one-way toll road is explicitly mentioned in many insurance policies as being ineligable for coverage, they were trying to traget this road without calling it out by name.

Mentioned above, the BMW had Brit plates: https://oversteer48.com/nurburgring-insurance-tourist-driving-guide/

 

[edyvw]

Hopefully Germany eases back on liability unlike USA. You choose to run around a track you are not liable for anything nor the track. Everyone takes the risk.

They walked off , no big deal and expendable cars destroyed.

On my track, you are on your own, unless you buy track insurance. You assume full responsibility and acknowledge that accidents might and will happen.

 

[edyvw]

A helmet definitely limits your visibility and it's even worse if you add in a Hans.

From the videos I've seen, very few people seem to wear helmets on the regular public days there.

Yeah, here that won't fly. And it should not.

 

[KrisZ]

Both are at fault IMO. This wasn't a racing event, just public driving on the track. This is what you may end up with and that's the risk I hope they were aware of when taking their cars to the track.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

OucH! Good thing the Porsche left his petrol tank on the guard rail and quickly exited - stage UP ^

 

[Jetronic]

Hopefully Germany eases back on liability unlike USA. You choose to run around a track you are not liable for anything nor the track. Everyone takes the risk.

They walked off , no big deal and expendable cars destroyed.

it doesn't count as a track it's a public road. Road rules apply, there's a speed limit on one section even.

They will have to pay for track damage including closure and cleanup