Coyote Tick Oil Choice

I couldn't care less if someone asks.

If this is solvable without 3rd party addins, I think that's a better solution.
 
Also here are a few previous discussions on this apparently popular topic. You even participated in at least one:

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Thread 'Ford F-150 5.0 Coyote Tick and Oil Type'

I have a 2016 F-150 2nd Generation 5.0 Coyote with 68k miles.

I've regularly changed the oil between 4-5k with Motorcraft 5w20 Synthetic Blend, per the Form manual. Never an issue and the engine has always sounded good and fairly quiet.

At 65k miles, I started to hear a flutter or a tick in the engine compartment.

One dealer said the noise was normal. It was a new noise for my truck, so to me I don't consider a new noise normal.

Another dealer said it was the water pump and tensioner pulleys and replaced both, and both belts. .

Checked manifold for leak. All good.

Did...
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Thread 'Effect of Oil on Coyote BBQ Tick?'

Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w20 Tick Gone!

BBQ Tick Fix

Hi all,

For those that don't know, the 5.0L Coyote is known to develop an engine tick that usually occurs after the first oil change for some. There are a number of people on the Mustang forums that have stated that PUP 5w20 has quieted down or cured their ticking, some even switching from M1 EP 5w20.

Could oil really be affecting this phenomenon that blatantly? Especially between two off-the-shelf synthetics? FYI, I don't have the tick but I bought the car at 8800 mi and immediately changed it out to PUP (not because of...
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Thread 'Best option for Coyote engine'

Hi all
I write here so please help me with a question:
I currently own a 2013 Mustang 5.0 with approximately 46,000 miles. I must change engine oil, and according to the manual this must be 5w20 and comply with the WSS-M2C945 standard.
Now, that you swap with the above, in my country I have found only Motorcraft synthetic blend, and full synthetic; Mobil 1 full synthetic.
I currently use Redline 5w20, which I am not sure meets the standard indicated by Ford.
If indicated, which option will be the most appropriate?
Thank you!!
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Thread 'Engine Knock/Tick Ford 3.8L'

Hello!, My engine has a knock or tick at certain RPMS. I dont know the RPMs as i do not have a RPM gauge, but i would guess around 2500rpms? It does not affect the driveability of the car, but this sound is a little annoying.

The car has 101K miles on it, I'm using Pennzoil Plat 5W30 and a Fl-400s Motorcraft filter. Oil was just changed 100 miles ago. Have been using syn from 96K miles.

This problem has always been here from day 1 @ 96K miles. I dont think it is getting worse.

The car could be a city car... :o

I'm not too worried about this problem, because the 89 Cougar LS we had...
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Thread 'Coyote vct system vs oil grades'

I have been using 40 grades for the last 3 years on my 2018 5.0 in an F150. I may just start using 5w50 as I can get it from the dealer. Just recently I replaced my vct solenoids due to a rough idle and stalling issue. Which seems to have fixed the issue so far. Warranty did not cover these as I had no check engine light / codes. So I paid out of pocket. Some things I’ve seen in datalogging is that using lighter oils you get really low psi at hot idle. Which doesn’t allow for the vct system to operate properly causing issues. I’ve found that heavier oils give higher hot idle pressure and...
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Thread 'Why do ford 3.3L Engines Tick?'

These trucks are hard to find but I did find one at a local lot and it too sounds identical. I cannot pinpoint it on mine. Could this just be a GDI injection thing?

My video the phone did some kind of enhancement in real life its not anywhere near that metallic sounding.

My 3.3L Engine video:


Youtuber 20K ish miles engine tick, need to have volume loud and you will hear it in the first 20 sec:

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Thread '2022 Mustang GT 5.0L Coyote, Mobil1 FS 0W40, 5500 miles on car, 2300 miles on oil, has infamous tick'

Preface
- Factory fill drained at 1200 miles (no sample)
- M1 5W30 + FRAM Ultra XG73717 from 1200 mi to 3200 mi (no sample)
- M1 0W40 + Ford Racing FL820HD from 3200 mi to 5500 mi (2300 miles on oil, first used oil analysis, replaced fluid and filter with same 0W40 and Ford Racing FL820 filter)

Wanted to get an idea of how my engine was breaking in so after a year of ownership I got my first oil analysis before I likely end up tuning the car.

After the first oil change, the car would get the hot idle famous barbecue tick that sounds like pressing the ignitor button on a stovetop or grill...
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Thread 'Motorcraft XL-17 mystery additive'

Apologies if this has been addressed.......

I have a 2013 Mustang GT with the 5.0 V-8 Coyote motor. It has developed an engine tick at 1300 miles. It sounds like the ignitor button on a gas grill or 2 ball bearings on strings hitting each other. The problem occurs at hot idle and low rpm. One fix is to add a tensioner to the A/C belt. The other is to add 8oz of Motorcraft mystery additive called XL-17 ($32/8oz). It's not the A/C belt on mine.

Does anyone have any idea what this stuff is? Ford isn't saying nor are they saying what the problem is that this additive fixes. It is a nearly...
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Thread 'Valvoline restore and protect ford 3.7'

So a little back story, I go to the states every month and I often bring back oil due to the discounted prices...pucked up 2 jugs and decided to try the new valvoline restore and protect 5w30.

Before I continue, I'm not some paid spokesperson or whatever I'm just some regular car guy who ultimately just wants his engine to run great and improve mileage whatever way I can without going full hypermiler...I mean if valvoline wants to sponsor some random dude on a forum then by all means whatever makes my bank account look happier...anyway

Few things to note about the ford 3.7 cyclone and...
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Thread '2021 Mustang GT'

I'm considering buying a new Mustang GT with the 5.0 Coyote and manual transmission. I've spent considerable time researching the infamous "typewriter" tick (or as some call it the bbq tick) through various mustang forums. Some owners dismiss the tick...Ford states it is normal...and live with it. Others are upset with the noise the engine makes...and regret their decision in buying the vehicle. I know this same engine is in a lot of F-150 pickup trucks as well. I've watched a lot of you tube videos of owners describing the tick....some engines sound worse than others. Some owners say the...
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Thread 'Mustang Coyote 5.0L V8 engine oil recommendations - Ford has spec’d 5W20, 5W50, and 5W30 for it before.'

I am picking up a brand new 2022 Mustang GT with the 5.0L V8. Currently 2021-2022 models calls for 5W30. The 2018-2020 were calling for 5W20, all mustang V8s in these model years are identical Gen 3 in terms of internals. The 2015-17 Gen 2 Coyote called for 5W20, and so did the Gen 1 from 2011-2014. However; performance pack models at that time called for 5W50 to be used, even though the guts are the same. So I have a large hunch that Ford designed this engine to wear best with a thicker oil and tried to get away with as thin as they could recommend to meet CAFE/EPA/ fuel economy benefits...
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Thread 'Jaguar AJ133 5.0 with mustang coyote tick?'

Hi everyone,

I recently changed the oil in my 2010 XFR jaguar (aj133 supercharged 5.0) to the specific 0W20 castrol. Almost immediatly it developed a very strange ticking sound.

Only on a warm engine, AC on, between 1000 and 1500 rpm. An intermittent quite loud tick coming from under the car, not the top of the engine. These cars are known for rattling superchargers and timing chains/tensioners, but we (mechanic and jag specialist) have checked it 3 times with a stethoscope on every single part of the engine and can't pinpoint it.

Googling, I found a thread on rangerover forums (same...
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Thread 'Which 5w30 for gen lll Coyote 5.0?'

I know Ford states 5w20 for DD and 5w30 when used during a track day (which should be dumped and refilled with 5w20 after...really???). This isn't a weight vs weight question, just oil vs oil with 5w30. I won't be putting a lot of miles on it as I have another vehicle and only drive 5k as it is. VERY hot summers here, short trips, occasional road trips, and a little spirited driving.
Thank you.
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Thread 'Synthetic oil and 5.0 coyote engine'

1st post here. 2 questions. 1. is there a large difference between 5w20 semi-synthetic and 5w50 full synthetic? 2. What about the 5.0 would cause engine ticking (actually sounds like noise made when engine/exhaust cooling off after engine shut down) noise after synthetic put in?
5w20 and 5w50 synthetic used in two different engines both causing intermittent noise after synthetic put in.
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Thread 'Oil shearing in Ford 5.0L engines'

I have a 2014 Ford F150 FX2 with remaned 5.0L crate engine. On startup the engine has a tick at both hot and cold condition. Ford says the tick is normal for 5.0L engines and the noise is a result of oil shearing off the journals. The noise is more prevalent at the oil pan, but can be heard in the fender wells and under the hood. My oil pressure is 17psig hot at idle and 75 psig above 1700 rpm hot. Using Valvoline 5w30 full synthetic oil now, was using 5w20 synthetic blend. Would a high volume high pressure Melling oil pump that delivers 30 psig at idle reduce or eliminate the...
 
kschachn said:
Also here are a few previous discussions on this apparently popular topic. You even participated in at least one:
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Yep, I know, I've read them. Lots of those thread were around 5w-20, since that's what Ford spec'd at the time.

Have I violated some rule by making this thread?
 
I’ve tried various viscosities and brands of oil in my 21 Mustang GT. Nothing really stops the tick, some oils are quieter than others, but they all tick. Also the tick usually subsides around 1-1.5k miles into the OCI. As Ford says, “it’s a normal operating characteristic of the Coyote engine”. There’s plenty of 300k coyotes out there that have ticked their whole lives, reported by owners. I don’t even sweat it anymore.
 
A friend of mine has a Mustang that had a tick sound, very pronunced with Mobil 1 ,,then he went and used Schaeffer's oil, nice and quiet now and used same Fram filters, must be a better oil it seems.
 
I'm not worried. I'm hesitant to jump to the most expensive option before ruling out more accessible and less expensive options.

If I knew it were a guaranteed fix, I'd do it. I don't see evidence of that.
 
rijndael said:
I'm not worried. I'm hesitant to jump to the most expensive option before ruling out more accessible and less expensive options.

If I knew it were a guaranteed fix, I'd do it. I don't see evidence of that.
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It's not really more expensive if you run it to its full potential (backed by UOA's).

There are no guarantees, but doing constant oil change swaps with cheaper oil and tossing it because it doesn't help isn't cheap either.

Just my pair of pennies.
 
You’re right that dumping good oil is costing money.

I have a warranty to consider, so running it longer than the OLM isn’t something I’m going to do. Right now I seem to average about 10% / 500 miles.
 
rijndael said:
I've done 2 (short interval) oil changes on m Mustang. The tick popped up slight after the first and it's louder with the second. I drive next to concrete or brick walls pretty often, where it's most noticable, and it bugs me.

I'm using Kirkland 5w-30 right now, I'm only 100 miles in to this change, but I'm going to dump it. Yes, it bugs me that much.

What is a good next one to try? I'm considering:

Valvoline EP 5w-30
ESP .... 0w or 5w?

I really want to avoid Ceretec as a fix.
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The Hemi guys swear by Red Line 5w30. I run it as well and it makes my B58 not sound like a little tractor anymore
 
Passport1 said:
My son had a 5.0 Mustang with that ticking. I listened to it and it seemed (to my ear) to come from the fuel injectors.
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Yeah I think a lot of people confuse bottom end tick with the injectors, then there’s also the awful sounding 2k rattle. It’s a noisy engine in a lot of good ways and bad ways.
 
KCJeep said:
I wouldn’t be playing around with extended OCIs under warranty either. Plenty of time for that later.
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Or an oil like hpl that has no official certification. I recommended Hps and it’s the same way. I believe schaeffers is approved, it’s at least dexos and SP compliant. I did use hpl in my new 2024 for a few oil changes and am now running torco SR1 and neither of those are official SP oils. I like to live on the wild side.
 
Mine ticks less after the oil has been in it for a while. So maybe the best thing for the tick is actually an oil that you're comfortable running for the full OCI.

I'm using Quaker State Ultimate Protection 5w30 and I have not heard it tick since shortly after the oil change. I'd just stick with what you're using and see if it stops after 1000mi
 
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