Considering a small SUV

BMW lacks a reputation for reliability, and their huge cost of ownership make them a solid No Freaking Way for me. I'd rather buy an "appliance" that has the best reputation for reliability and low cost of ownership in the world.
100%. I wouldn't touch a BMW with a 10 foot pole...it's Japanese or bust for me...
 
BMW lacks a reputation for reliability, and their huge cost of ownership make them a solid No Freaking Way for me. I'd rather buy an "appliance" that has the best reputation for reliability and low cost of ownership in the world.
The problem there is that they've seemingly been doing what they can to undermine that. Witness all the problems of late.

Worse, they're trying to drive their owners bonkers. Last night, wife went to put gas in her car. Filler door wouldn't open, it was iced over. Oh well, wasn't on fumes, so off she went. Going home, every 30 seconds the dash would indicate that it was ready for fueling (I guess the latch mechanism was frozen and/or it thought the filler door was open, when it wasn't). No matter how many times she canceled out, the indication would come back. Early in the year I smacked a deer and took out whatever forward collision sensor it has on my car. It spent the next couple of weeks telling me that two systems were down--and no amount of canceling would turn that warning off. Annoying!

One time I was on a very slippery surface and traction control was too aggressive. So I turned it off. Boy did it take offense! kept telling me that traction control was off. Duh, I know that already! sheesh...

And god forbid if I park with a window cracked... it will beep at me getting out--and then back in!

Starting to think carbs and points are less problematic than I recall.
 
BMW lacks a reputation for reliability, and their huge cost of ownership make them a solid No Freaking Way for me. I'd rather buy an "appliance" that has the best reputation for reliability and low cost of ownership in the world.
How many have you owned? Have 3 G01 X3s in the family....no issues. been more reliable than anything else I've owned so far. Life's too short to drive a Toyota/Honda/Hyundai Econo box. How's the new Toyota 3.4 doing?
 
How many have you owned? Have 3 G01 X3s in the family....no issues. been more reliable than anything else I've owned so far. Life's too short to drive a Toyota/Honda/Hyundai Econo box. How's the new Toyota 3.4 doing?
This. I’d spring for a lightly used 2024 X3 but choose the inline six B58, the lord’s engine, paired with the ZF transmission. Way more fun than a crossover should be. Those that know the B48 and B58 are very reliable and are perfectly packaged in these models.
 
How many have you owned? Have 3 G01 X3s in the family....no issues. been more reliable than anything else I've owned so far. Life's too short to drive a Toyota/Honda/Hyundai Econo box. How's the new Toyota 3.4 doing?
I've not owned any. But millions of others have. Check the research...your 3 BMW's is not enough data. Life is too short to drive a car that will cause massive damage to one's wealth. Ever hear of Compounded Interest? At 65, being a Honda/Toyota appliance driver most of my life, I am at a position to buy any BMW new and at least 7+ of them if I want. But life is too short to piss away such money, right? I'd rather go to Europe twice a year, and spend my money on experiences far greater than flashing fake wealth.
 
I've not owned any. But millions of others have. Check the research...your 3 BMW's is not enough data. Life is too short to drive a car that will cause massive damage to one's wealth. Ever hear of Compounded Interest? At 65, being a Honda/Toyota appliance driver most of my life, I am at a position to buy any BMW new and at least 7+ of them if I want. But life is too short to piss away such money, right? I'd rather go to Europe twice a year, and spend my money on experiences far greater than flashing fake wealth.
Very judgmental of my finances are you? Very familiar with compound interest. I'm a finance major and work in finance. Still waiting for a vehicle to cause "massive" damage to my wealth. Sounds like you're way behind on your 401k contributions if at 65 you'll only be able to buy 7 BMWs...maybe you should worry about your own finances more before worrying about what other people are doing with their money!
 
The only reason I come to BITOG is to read all the glorious financial advice. That and I try to decipher the @Pablo gibberish...
Right. Live on beans and lentils and drive 20 year old Hondas just so you can retire and continue to live on beans and lentils and replace the now 35 year old Honda with another 20 year old one. Too bad some fool has to buy it new so a BITOG'er can buy it 20 years later. LOL
 
Right. Live on beans and lentils and drive 20 year old Hondas just so you can retire and continue to live on beans and lentils and replace the now 35 year old Honda with another 20 year old one. Too bad some fool has to buy it new so a BITOG'er can buy it 20 years later. LOL
You do know the Euro oil and premium gas are a no-no but make sure your air filter is totally polluted as it filters the best in that state but never let oil or contaminates into your finely crafted oil filter....
 
You do know the Euro oil and premium gas are a no-no but make sure your air filter is totally polluted as it filters the best in that state but never let oil or contaminates into your finely crafted oil filter....
I don't use air filters, I take the rice boxes and cut them to fit the air box, 100% filtration. It takes a Honda from 98hp down to 60hp but the savings are worth it.
 
The biggest hurdle for me with Mazdas is the black interiors. It's tough to find one without it, and I absolutely hate black interiors. Too d*** hot in the summer. The killer for me with the HR-V is the CVT. Put a regular transmission in them and I'm there...love Honda's 1.8L...
everyone has different experiences for sure but our 2016 crv touring had black leather and 23 cx5 turbo has black leather and they do not get hot...both cars were/are white so maybe that helps...Mazda leather is much nicer and of course the vented cooled seats are nice...my daughter has a brand new HRV sport and and they really like it...her husband is at least 6'3" and likes it better than their 2014 crv...they just had the VTC actuator replaced to the tune of $2000 at the dealership...they could not find an independent who would do it and the ones who specialized in Honda and Subaru etc recommended they just take it to the dealership and pay the penalty....I guess with like 150,000 miles and owing the crv since new that is the only money they have had to put into it so all and all they are actually happy.....oh i forgot my brother in-law has a CX5 turbo with white interior..it was on the lot and he bought it new in 2019..had the transmission replaced this past year at around 100,000 miles...he had purchased the extended warranty at the time of purchase and mazda honored the warranty...
 
Never drove a Japanese vehicle worth owning or that drove nice. they're all penalty boxes. Driven Lexuses, Toyotas, Hondas etc, they're all so cheaply made and built. How are the new 3.4 Toyotas doing?
Cheaply built? :ROFLMAO: Yeah, that's why my Corolla is still going at 450K+...there' ain't no German vehicles doing that...at least none that haven't required more $$$ in repairs than the vehicle is worth...
 
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How many have you owned? Have 3 G01 X3s in the family....no issues. been more reliable than anything else I've owned so far. Life's too short to drive a Toyota/Honda/Hyundai Econo box. How's the new Toyota 3.4 doing?
One doesn't have to own a BMW to know they aren't reliable...it's called reading...
 
everyone has different experiences for sure but our 2016 crv touring had black leather and 23 cx5 turbo has black leather and they do not get hot...both cars were/are white so maybe that helps...Mazda leather is much nicer and of course the vented cooled seats are nice...my daughter has a brand new HRV sport and and they really like it...her husband is at least 6'3" and likes it better than their 2014 crv...they just had the VTC actuator replaced to the tune of $2000 at the dealership...they could not find an independent who would do it and the ones who specialized in Honda and Subaru etc recommended they just take it to the dealership and pay the penalty....I guess with like 150,000 miles and owing the crv since new that is the only money they have had to put into it so all and all they are actually happy.....oh i forgot my brother in-law has a CX5 turbo with white interior..it was on the lot and he bought it new in 2019..had the transmission replaced this past year at around 100,000 miles...he had purchased the extended warranty at the time of purchase and mazda honored the warranty...
I'm looking at only non-turbo 2.5L CX-5s, don't want a turbo...
 
Most mainstream BMW models are pretty reliable and trouble free out to starship miles.
I've had a couple and this has been my experience.
Same for Benzes and I've had four of those.
The Hondas that we've had have always been good.
When you're buying used, it's all down to how the car was driven and maintained.
Plenty of real rat Toyotas out there.
 
Thinking about ditching my 19 Accord.
Great car I many ways: insanely good mileage, reasonably quick, drives great, pretty reliable, surprisingly roomy.
The driver assist stuff is VERY well executed (lane keep/assist and adaptive cruise).

But... uncomfortable seats, limited capabilities in winter (does fine with CC2 tires, but I get nervous as the snow increases in SE Michigan), LOW ground clearance, too much road noise.
And I'm a little concerned about the 1.5T longevity.

I don't want a hybrid.

So:
Honda CRV.
Tons of posivies, but:
Expensive, not particularly quiet (apparently the 25 models are quieter), questionable engine longevity (1.5T).

Subaru Forester.
Mechanically looks like a winner.
25 model is quieter and improved in several ways.
But: Sluggish engine, NANNY crap that nags you to watch the road or decides to slam the brakes for no reason, has a giant stupid slow touch screen.
Amazing that what is otherwise a well designed vehicle may be ruined by garbage electronics.

Hyundai Tucson.
Lots of good stuff.
But: really slow basic engine with low mileage. A lot of electronics makes me a little wary. There were a lot of early electronics issues early on. Questionable reliability.
Was quiet on a brief test drive.

Kia Sportage
Similar to Tucson, didn't test drive thought.

Nissan Rogue.
Decent on paper, but read that it has a too much cabin noise.

Mazda CX5.
Test drove several times briefly.
Drove well and was quiet. Decent acceleration. I like the drivetrain's mechanical simplicity.

But: small, narrow, firm seats. Very firm ride (the Accord is firm, yet absorbs bumps well), but I need to do more test drives and bring a pressure gauge, because maybe they were at 45psi...
Also, it is a little smaller than I would prefer, and outward visibility isn't great.

Subaru Outback.
Similar to Forester.

Chevrolet Equinox.
Ugh. Decent on paper...kinda.
Might do a test drive, but it doesn't seem to have any real standout features (poor mileage, not quiet?)

So many choices...

Ultimately it will probably be a coin toss, but any advice is appreciated...!
No, man. It's most economical to keep the car you got. The back seat folds down, don't it? You're particular and you've lived with the Accord longer than you will any of the makes you drove. lol
 
Moving from an Accord to a compact SUV is a big change in terms of seat comfort. I did the same and honestly missed the sedan seating position for a while. If the CX-5 felt too small, you should probably cross it off now because that cabin definitely feels cramped over time compared to the CR-V or Forester.
 
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