Family sedans: 3 <20K picks

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Having recently been car-shopping and having driven and bought none of the above, with my wife in a new Forester instead, I'll relate what I learned in driving these cars. Three four cylinder automatics. There is no stick Camry, not sure about the Fusion and while there are stick Accords, they're rare. These are probably the least costly decent mainstream cars available and any one of them would make a good daily driver as well as a family car for trips. Which to pick would depend upon how large your kids are. Real world fuel economy would probably be a wash between them.

Fusion: The driver's car. Feels, drives and rides tight. Decent power and very tall gearing in top. Quiet and composed and decently quick. Good sized trunk but not enough interior space for four adults. Cheapest car of the group. Would be a very good value for those willing to endure a sharper ride as well as no real back seat for adults.
Camry: The Lexus. Good ride and very quiet. Not a handler, but Camrys never were. Decent power but the slowest of the three. More room than the Fusion but not in the league of the Accord. A decent car at a decent price. Priced between the Accord and the Fusion.
Accord: Great room along with decent ride and handling. Does not ride as well as the Camry but is better than the Fusion. Does not handle as well as the Fusion but is better than the Camry.
Trumps either other car for room. Four adults fit comfortably. Also the fastest of the three in comparing NA four cylinder engines.
Subaru Forester: What we ended up buying for quite a few more dollars than any of the above but what my wife feels happy driving on her brutal commute. Rides very well and is quiet. Very good fuel economy for a real AWD car along with 9" of ground clearance. Plenty of room for four adults plus gear. Not a corner carving machine, but my wife will never do that anyway.
JMHO, but this is what I found.
 
Nice review.
I don't like Fords caccoon style drivers seat.
Accord has some QC issues and if you get the 18's they ride too stiff and
I dislike the road noise.

I hope Subaru fixed the oil consumption issues.
 
I'm surprised you thought the Fusion had not enough room for 4 adults. I drove it recently (the Sport version) and thought the interior was huge. Much more room than in my 5-series which seats 4 adults just fine.
 
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Three four cylinder automatics. There is no stick Camry, not sure about the Fusion and while there are stick Accords, they're rare. These are probably the least costly decent mainstream cars available and any one of them would make a good daily driver as well as a family car for trips.

Two of the best to compete: Chevy Malibu (recently redesigned, and is excellent); Mazda6: Awesome, looks great, highly rated.
 
I'll chime in! I sold Toyotas from June 2013-February 2014, Hondas from February 2014-March 2016 and Fords from March 2016-February 2017. I currently work as a Ford service advisor. I've spend a substantial amount of time behind the wheel of the late-model Camry, Accord and Fusion.

The Fusion looks great. Interiors are par for the course but nothing exceptional. I do like that the Fusion offers a power passenger seat where the others don't (on lower trims). The Fusion does have some good powertrain options- The 1.5 is sprightly, but doggish in higher RPMs. The 2.0 is potent and entertaining but a little thirsty. The 2.5 is a stalwart; unimpressive but simplistic and efficient. The 2.7 will kick you in the butt with its sound and acceleration. The Hybrid is a fantastic option- the weight of the battery pack makes the car feel so hefty (in a good way). Definitely not a bad option in the segment but not the one I would buy.

The Accord is definitely a great balance of fun to drive and comfort. I can't believe I'm saying this but the CVT is a really great transmission. The 2.4 is smooth, efficient and everything I could wish for in a motor. The 3.5 is a snarling beast that will throw you back though I find the 6-speed auto to be something of a letdown and I'm definitely NOT a fan of the Honda Variable Cylinder Management system. The Accord Hybrid is the tech wizard of the class but that doesn't necessarily make it the best choice in the segment.

Truthfully, the one I'd buy is the Camry V6. I like a quiet sedan with plenty of power and the 6AT is an excellent transmission. I don't have any experience with the new 8AT though I reckon it's pretty great. The Camry is so comfortable and competent. It's what I like in a car. The base 2.5 is decent but a little trashy during acceleration. The Camry Hybrid is a really solid commuter but I don't love the regenerative brakes. Camry V6 is a Lexus for Toyota money.
 
Originally Posted By: EricBeau
... The Camry Hybrid is a really solid commuter but I don't love the regenerative brakes. ...


those particular regen brakes? or just in general?

they're my brother's favorite part of his Volt.
that and the fact that he's not used any gas in 2 weeks....(plug it in, plug it in)
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
I'm surprised you thought the Fusion had not enough room for 4 adults. I drove it recently (the Sport version) and thought the interior was huge. Much more room than in my 5-series which seats 4 adults just fine.


Was that the 2.7T Sport Fusion? What did you think of it?
 
I would never buy a toyota. I like the idea of a real AWD but my issue with subaru is the designer must be the lamest people on earth. The interior is blah. Its been that way for years. If they could design a car like Mazda or Ford, I'd be a subaru owner. Oh and if they got rid of the CVT too. Thats got to go or at least offer a manual turbo legacy.
 
Hyundai Sonata is $16.5k (base model, no options) truecar.com

Much cheaper and just about as decent as any contender mentioned.
 
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Hyundai Sonata is $16.5k (base model, no options) truecar.com

Much cheaper and just about as decent as any contender mentioned.
There's my pick! The biggest of them all inside, it's huge. I bought mine so cheap that even if it has issues I'm still way ahead. 10k miles in the 5 months I've had it, so far so good. Pluses and minuses of course but that's to be expected.
 
The Forester has a nice but not awe-inspiring interior but none of these cars are Audis just as AWD Audis aren't Subarus in treacherous conditions.
You can get a 6 spd manual Forester, but while I haven't driven any recent Subaru sticks, word on the street is that they're pretty awful.
 
Originally Posted By: pbm
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
I'm surprised you thought the Fusion had not enough room for 4 adults. I drove it recently (the Sport version) and thought the interior was huge. Much more room than in my 5-series which seats 4 adults just fine.


Was that the 2.7T Sport Fusion? What did you think of it?

Yes, 2.7 Fusion Sport.

All in all, it wasn't bad, but not sporty enough for my liking. I think the trans programming was the biggest let down - not well sorted out, and the paddle shifters are fairly useless due to the delay. I made a few comments in this earlier thread...

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...-_3#Post4177394
 
Took a desultory look at the 6. They are said to drive quite nicely and they are also priced below both the Accord and the Camry although they are a little lacking in interior space. They rust badly here in the salt belt. This seems to be a Mazda thing that you don't see in other makes these days but you do in many Mazda products.
There is also one brand of pickup truck known for this.
 
Get a stick accord, 2014 or 2015 used cause they are cheap now. I see really nice clean sport 6mts for like 15k.
 
Originally Posted By: dareo
Get a stick accord, 2014 or 2015 used cause they are cheap now. I see really nice clean sport 6mts for like 15k.


Who has 15k lying around for a used car no less.
 
Originally Posted By: HondaRULZ
Originally Posted By: dareo
Get a stick accord, 2014 or 2015 used cause they are cheap now. I see really nice clean sport 6mts for like 15k.


Who has 15k lying around for a used car no less.

I would imagine quite a few people. Not everyone lives on credit.
 
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