I haven't seen any testing of the Pentius, but it seems to have more filter media than any other filter in the 7317 size, so it's a safe bet that it's less restrictive than most filters.
Consensus between M1, Purolator, and CarQuest Premium Oil Filters?
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I ended up getting a Pentius PLXL7317 to try out for my next OCI which is some time away. However, people did mention to check QC closely as a result of the single bad QC report that was shared on Amazon.
I'm new to this "inspect your oil filter" thing, as historically I would just buy the M1 from WalMart and install without thought.
What exactly am I looking for in defective filter? with the exception of uncut core holes, burs, rattle when shaking? Are most defects pretty obvious?
Was skeptical at first to try Pentius PLXL since I've never heard of it, but looking through some reviews on BITOG, it looks like it's getting a lot of praise for it's quality. Curious how much more this will help to clean my oil compared to the M1-110A, as that is a concern I'm currently chasing.
My current OCI is about 3k miles more or less.
I'm new to this "inspect your oil filter" thing, as historically I would just buy the M1 from WalMart and install without thought.
What exactly am I looking for in defective filter? with the exception of uncut core holes, burs, rattle when shaking? Are most defects pretty obvious?
Was skeptical at first to try Pentius PLXL since I've never heard of it, but looking through some reviews on BITOG, it looks like it's getting a lot of praise for it's quality. Curious how much more this will help to clean my oil compared to the M1-110A, as that is a concern I'm currently chasing.
My current OCI is about 3k miles more or less.
I bought a case of them last month, so I'm good for the next 4-5 years. I don't remember seeing any poor reviews on BITOG for the Pentius filters. If it was Amazon, take it for what it's worth.
Unless the filter you're comparing to has torn media or a leaking by-pass valve, don't expect this filter to clean your oil any better. My reason for going with this filter is strictly a level of confidence that its construction has seemingly been consistently good.
I highly doubt a Honda K23 oil pump puts 15.85 GPM (60 L/min) through the engine. Besides, a dP increase of only 3 more PSI across an oil filter isn't going to cause any lack of lubrication - ie, if an engine is getting 15 GPM of oil flow, then it's still going to be fine with 14 GPM, or if an engine is getting 10 GPM, then it will still be fine getting 9.5 GPM.
From where?
What's the pressure drop on the Purolators, from what source?
Here (literally lol). But if they're not good filters, that's the reason for my post
Epic ...
But I wouldn't have the conclusion of "reading good things about Purolators". Now some Purolators (and Motorcrafts made by Purolator) are using that weak black glue on the end caps that comes off in use. Been some discussions about that lately.Of the 3 you ask about, I'd use the Carquest Premium. Of course the other PGI variants that others have mentioned are good too. Just don't use glue shedders, lol.
Between the CarQuest Premium and the Pentius PLXL, which would you choose?Epic ...
Of the 3 you ask about, I'd use the Carquest Premium. Of course the other PGI variants that others have mentioned are good too. Just don't use glue shedders, lol.
From the specification info we have seen, they both look pretty equal, same construction and both claiming efficiency of 99% @ 20u particles and greater. Flip a coin perhaps. Personally, I'd buy the one I could look at and inspect before purchase. I did that with Carquest Premiums ... ordered them on line with a discount code, went to the store (not far away) to pick them up and asked the guy at the counter if I could inspect for any defects (brought a small LED flashlight to look down the center tube). I wouldn't buy a case of filters either, I just don't go through filters that fast. If you don't have an AAP nearby, then ordering the Pentius on-line would be an option if you can return them for free if there happens to be any issues with them (ie, shipping damage or any production flaws). Another option is the MicroGard Select from O'Reilly if you have one close, but the efficiency is a hair less at 99% @ 25u (still pretty good), and it's a solid filter too. Or PGI varients like the STP XL from AutoZone. Can inspect too if bought at a local store. Lots of pretty equal choices.
Good stuff, thanks!
It appears the source in the asserted nebulous "pressure drop" in the PL14610 is what you commented on in post #26. Why I added my long time experience with it and variants in last post here.
Also, not buying the "ultra flow" on the Pentius XL as being anything significant, mostly promotional in nature. Looks like a quality made filter and I'd have no problem using it. That said, the promoted so called "ultra flow" characteristics a total non factor 'for me.' But, also my general preference being for non bulk filter purchase, still makes the CQ Premium as the better value in lower quantity purchase.
Seeing the specific vehicle info linked in post #22 by the OP, 'if mine' first thing I'd do is get rid of the AEM air filter and intake and go back to OE air intake system. I suspect it could be a significant factor in the higher silicone seen in the UOA.
I don't like the idea of filters sitting on the shelf too long, but too often we see the construction of filters using the same part number changing. Just when you thought you found one you like, the next one you cut open is no longer what you thought you were buying because their construction has changed.
I recently bought four Amsoil EA15K13 filters. This particular filter has changed construction in the past year and no longer matches the description currently shown on Amsoil's website. Other EA15K filters may still use the older construction. How did I find out? I cut one open.
I bought a case of Pentius filters because their construction is currently known, meets what I want in a filter, and I don't have to wonder if anything were to change in the next 4-5 years.
That's a point for buying in the 12 lot here. Wouldn't change my 'general' preference for smaller lot purchase, but understandable reasoning. If I used them faster, might be different. As I'm now doing mostly annual ocis, just currently prefer the CQ (or other OF) in lower quantity and navigate changes if or when it happens. I'd be mostly avoiding any Champ Labs made filters now.
I understand Champ is now making the EA15K13 filter for Amsoil, but don't know this as fact.
Following the subforum posted anecdotes and youtube dissections can't recall seeing any of the more recent manufacture date Amsoil oil filters being other than Champ Labs made. But, as that's been much discussed don't really want to take it beyond that and off topic.
