Castrol TWS 10w60 - Where to buy in Canada?

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: dparm
Technically there's ESP Formula M 5w40 (meets ACEA A3/B4), but that isn't LL-01 approved.


I know, that's why I said "that meets LL-01"

 

[NorWest5]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: dparm
Technically there's ESP Formula M 5w40 (meets ACEA A3/B4), but that isn't LL-01 approved.


I know, that's why I said "that meets LL-01"

Sorry LL-01 is correct, I should have typed Mobil1 0W-40. It's been years since I quit using Mobil1 in this car.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: NorWest5
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: dparm
Technically there's ESP Formula M 5w40 (meets ACEA A3/B4), but that isn't LL-01 approved.


I know, that's why I said "that meets LL-01"

Sorry LL-01 is correct, I should have typed Mobil1 0W-40. It's been years since I quit using Mobil1 in this car.



Goes to show just how different each car can be eh? LOL! Mine is the quietest on PU 5w-40 and M1 0w-40. Was the loudest on the BMW/Castrol 5w-30.

 

[NorWest5]

I ran Mobil1 in my M5 post 10,000 miles when the S62 engine was supposed to quit consuming a quart of oil every 1,000 miles (my engine switched off consumption like a switch was flipped at 10,000 miles). What I didn't like was the valve train racket with Mobil1. When I switched over to GC 0W-30 (the original green coloured product) my noisy vanos on startup immediately stopped. I still have some of the original GC but I am considering trying Pennzoil Ultra in the Euro LL-01 flavor which I think is their 0W-40 formula. My Honda S2000 really likes GC as well but I am considering moving to 10W-30 Pennzoil Ultra to ensure I still have enough GC on hand. All other Honda's in the family fleet run either PP or PU in 0W-20 and the Honda engines really like this oil.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: NorWest5
I ran Mobil1 in my M5 post 10,000 miles when the S62 engine was supposed to quit consuming a quart of oil every 1,000 miles (my engine switched off consumption like a switch was flipped at 10,000 miles). What I didn't like was the valve train racket with Mobil1. When I switched over to GC 0W-30 (the original green coloured product) my noisy vanos on startup immediately stopped. I still have some of the original GC but I am considering trying Pennzoil Ultra in the Euro LL-01 flavor which I think is their 0W-40 formula. My Honda S2000 really likes GC as well but I am considering moving to 10W-30 Pennzoil Ultra to ensure I still have enough GC on hand. All other Honda's in the family fleet run either PP or PU in 0W-20 and the Honda engines really like this oil.


The PU 0w-40 has no Euro certs, only the Dodge SRT thing, as that's the application it is designed for. The PU product that is LL-01 approved is their ultra-low NOACK 5w-40, which is the product I'm currently running. It is excellent! And I expect it will show significantly less shear on a UOA than the M1 0w-40 did.

 

[dparm]

I thought there were two PU 0w40s: "SRT" and "Euro"?

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: dparm
I thought there were two PU 0w40s: "SRT" and "Euro"?


I think you might be right, though I don't recall it actually being available and the spec's on it weren't great, high NOACK compared to the 5w-40....etc.

 

[dparm]

Right, as the 0w40 is not a GTL basestock...yet. Once it is, I think M1 0w40 will have some very strong competition.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
And which Mobil 1 grade was this? You said 5w-40 in your previous post, but Mobil doesn't make a 5w-40 LL-01 approved lubricant, only their 0w-40. So were you talking about the Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40?

Just to muddy the waters a bit, there is an M1 5w-40 Formula M (non ESP) oil which meets MB 229.5 spec. In terms of performance, the 229.5 spec surpasses LL-01, so one would assume that it could easily meet it as well, alas, XOM has never officially put the LL-01 approval on the bottle as this oil is primarily sold by MB service departments.

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_Formula_M_5W-40.aspx

It appears to be a mid-SAPS oil, which may be of benefit to DI engines.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: dparm
Right, as the 0w40 is not a GTL basestock...yet. Once it is, I think M1 0w40 will have some very strong competition.


Agreed

 

[dparm]

Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
And which Mobil 1 grade was this? You said 5w-40 in your previous post, but Mobil doesn't make a 5w-40 LL-01 approved lubricant, only their 0w-40. So were you talking about the Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40?

Just to muddy the waters a bit, there is an M1 5w-40 Formula M (non ESP) oil which meets MB 229.5 spec. In terms of performance, the 229.5 spec surpasses LL-01, so one would assume that it could easily meet it as well, alas, XOM has never officially put the LL-01 approval on the bottle as this oil is primarily sold by MB service departments.

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil1_Formula_M_5W-40.aspx

It appears to be a mid-SAPS oil, which may be of benefit to DI engines.



Said oil is also fairly easy to get at Pep Boys and other places.

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: dparm
Said oil is also fairly easy to get at Pep Boys and other places.

Really? I know Pep Boys carries the ESP version, but I've never seen the non-ESP version there.