API finds nearly half of certified oils have issues

[Pepperjunkie]

I understand that.

If you’re Scammy blender Mcstinksalot. And you can make an unlicensed oil for ~$3.50 a gallon. And it costs you ~$5.50 to make a licensed GF6 SP oil, let’s say.

You have a distributor that buys ~4 truck loads a month of your GF6 SP oil like clock work, alright.

What’s stopping you from just slipping in a few thousand gallons of the unlicensed crap oil once or twice a month? Maybe get rid of your line wash in it… maybe use up some bad base oil… they’ll never notice, right? Make a ten, twenty grand extra…

Yeah. That’s literally how it goes. It’s why distributor QC and supplier management needs to be very high priority.

I realize this is sort of off topic but your post made me recall this story.
My father is a retired tanker truck driver, he would fill the underground storage tanks at gas stations.
Briefly due to layoff he worked for a smaller 3rd party company and he told me there were occasions were they had him fill a brand name station's tanks with a different fuel, most likely a cheaper product that wasn't top tier fuel.
He really hated this company as I recall, he left after about 6 months.

Crap oil out there wouldn't shock me....

 

[Foxtrot08]

I realize this is sort of off topic but your post made me recall this story.
My father is a retired tanker truck driver, he would fill the underground storage tanks at gas stations.
Briefly due to layoff he worked for a smaller 3rd party company and he told me there were occasions were they had him fill a brand name station's tanks with a different fuel, most likely a cheaper product that wasn't top tier fuel.
He really hated this company as I recall, he left after about 6 months.

Crap oil out there wouldn't shock me....

Oh if we are going into fuel stories… that’s a different story completely. Another wild world.

 

[subyski]

Not sure I trust the giant vat of oil at the big factory. Could have floaters

But at least they will be factory spec floaters

 

[The Lube Guy]

Oh if we are going into fuel stories… that’s a different story completely. Another wild world.

You pay for 93, you get 87, right?

 

[4WD]

Well over 200 posts and what I gather is most folks here either run boutique lubes - or the name brands in bottles or jugs … Good !!!
So the non DIYer’s should pay more attention at quick lubes …
That’s all I got …

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Mobil 1 5W-30 SM was demonstrated not meeting Sequence IVA requirements.
Mobil Delvac 1300 was demonstrated not passing the Volvo T-13 oxidation test.
Rotella T6 is shown here not meeting the foaming requirements.

Yup, just buy a major brand and you'll be assured of getting an oil that is always exactly what it claims to be.

Ed

Anything to back up the M1 allegations?

 

[4WD]

Anything to back up the M1 allegations?

Wait - this was a Rotella group claim, right ?
Thought none of the OEM’s agreed … ?

 

[ARCOgraphite]

ARCOgraphite never met a engine he didn't blow up

I was going to be added as a suffix to SEQ IV engine test.
But, nothing has passed. So uh, we gotta just "ignore" that one.

I am also no longer allowed to buy a Hyundai it's in the double-jeopardy clause.

 

[Pablo]

I was going to be added as a suffix to SEQ IV engine test.
But, nothing has passed. So uh, we gotta just "ignore" that one.

I am also no longer allowed to buy a Hyundai it's in the double jepordy clause.

Forum name. Fits.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Anything to back up the M1 allegations?

Man, you should know this old story.

 

[Foxtrot08]

You pay for 93, you get 87, right?

There’s some of that. But that’s at the pretty obvious spots. Just the whole fuel world in general is wild. Simply due to the volume. The other half of my family manages and owns a few hundred gas stations. Moved around 500 million gallons a year of fuel. Just gigantic numbers, huge volume. At that level nothing can be perfect.

 

[RDY4WAR]

The same fuel can vary quite substantially (relatively speaking) from one batch to another, much more so with summer vs winter blends. Then you have each brand's own detergent packs. Collecting any data with pump gasoline, if the comparisons aren't made with the same batch of fuel from the same pump, the MoE could be quite large.

 

[Vorlauf]

So your best bet of getting an oil that meets manufacturer or industry spec buying new with factory fill and never changing the oil.

Who manufacturers/blends that oil? I don't trust it anymore than the stuff at quick lube type places. A DIY oil change has been the 1st thing I've done with any new/used vehicle I've brought home.

 

[Dave Hess]

Who manufacturers/blends that oil? I don't trust it anymore than the stuff at quick lube type places. A DIY oil change has been the 1st thing I've done with any new/used vehicle I've brought home.

Yep, do everything yourself and done 100% correctly.

 

[Scott S]

Man, you should know this old story.

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I wonder if this is still true? I remember that when I was managing Valvoline, I heard about this..

 

[The Lube Guy]

Man, you should know this old story.

Ah, from when hurricane Katrina hit. Valvoline taking on Mobil, lol.

 

[OVERKILL]

Ah, from when hurricane Katrina hit. Valvoline taking on Mobil, lol.

Yup, and the API response was that the oil met the spec, lol.

 

[4WD]

Yup, and the API response was that the oil met the spec, lol.

But, but, the blue parrot told who told …

 

[Glenda W.]

I believe I read here that Valvoline has quite the testing facility in house. I don’t believe they’d would put out those allegations without proof.

 

[4WD]

I believe I read here that Valvoline has quite the testing facility in house. I don’t believe they’d would put out those allegations without proof.

Read two things: title of thread and what OK posted