Originally Posted by irv
Originally Posted by RayCJ
Originally Posted by irv
Originally Posted by Donald
I am close to my annual waxing of my truck. My go to wax is 845. Are any of the new products I hear about any better? Looking for durability rather than a super shine.
I just waxed my truck yesterday with Collinite 845, which has been my preferred wax for many years now. It wasn't the ideal weather to do it in (chilly 11c) but taking the chance more preferable weather is on the horizon wasn't a chance I wanted to take.
Imo, using this wax for years has proven to me it lasts a good 5-6 months easily which will get me through the winter.
I do have some Meguiar's Ultimate Fast Finish that I may also put on top in a few days/week if the weather cooperates but, from what I have read, it is recommended that it goes on first, or under the wax, not on top?
Regardless, I still think it will do something?
I've pretty-much found the same think as you but I tend to low-ball the effective duration a bit. Collinite 845, 476 and 915 are all basically the same with varying levels of Carnuba wax and synthetic compounds. The carnuba tends to lose it's shine but it still repels water for a long time after that. I've also learned that different people have different preparation and application techniques and it might not last as long for them. If you wait a day and apply a second coat, it solidly lasts all winter.
Also, some people like to use a sealer first and a top coat of wax. -Also a very effective combination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtILoTKSXq8
I think that was the vid where I realized the sealant should go on first and the wax second? I like Pan's video's. He seems very knowledgeable and he is very informative.
Truthfully, I have never done 2 coats of 845, always just one and then 5-6 months later I redo it again. I have read, because of the ingredients in 845, that doing 2 coats relatively close together (after 24+ hours) you are just basically removing the first coat due to the petroleum products in it?
Your vid, and my previous thoughts make me wonder if applying the UFF is just a waste of time/product? I did my wife's and son's car this year and applied the UFF "after" it was waxed with 845 about a week+ later after a wash and, imo, it seemed to make the cars pop even more. My eyes aren't what they use to be but both vehicles looked very good after and I noticed, with the UFF on top of the wax, dust and pollen didn't stick like I was use too.
I still need to put a coat of wax on my wife's car, which I am hoping to do tomorrow but with rain coming Saturday night/all day Sunday, I don't know if my efforts will just be a waste of time?
Any idea how long the UFF should cure for? I am thinking I may do it first, like it's recommended, then hopefully be able to put a coat of 845 on next week on top of the UFF?
Thanks for the info/vid.
All the ceramic (i.e."silicone based nano-coating") product instructions seem to recommend 24-48 hours before applying any other sealer, wax product or exposure to rain etc. For traditional waxes and polymer sealers, 24 hours is plenty of time to let the wax harden and/or solvents evaporate.
845 contains the most amount of solvent. If you rub firmly, you will notice it loosens dirt in any area that's not perfectly clean. It stands to reason that solvents could lift anything below it... That's my story/theory -and I'm sticking to it
Ray