Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic

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Thankyou for those words of wisdom billpace1956.
If you want to keep your car for many years, you should probably be using Amsoil . I believe that it is the finest oil on the planet.
Don't underrate the addition of magnetic filtration, sure it only removes ferrous particles, but aren't those the little rascals
that cause a lot of wear? It will protect all the softer metals from wear and minimize oil oxidation.
What do you mean by magnetic filtration
 
What do you mean by magnetic filtration

Magnetic oil filtration will remove a lot of the wear iron from the oil stream. The removal of the hard, abrasive iron
will greatly lower the wear on all internal engine components. While magnetic oil filtration will not directly remove the softer metals,
It will remove the iron that will cause their wear.
Examples of magnetic filtration include a magnetic oil drain plug, a wraparound oil filter magnetic array of neodium magnets or
just some loose magnets applied to the outside of the oil filter. This is by no means an exhaustive list of possibilities. I understand
that some folks actually put magnets inside the oil filter. You can actually buy a filter that already includes internal magnets.

I use Filtermag magnets on my oil filter, they are very effective.
 
Magnetic oil filtration will remove a lot of the wear iron from the oil stream. The removal of the hard, abrasive iron
will greatly lower the wear on all internal engine components. While magnetic oil filtration will not directly remove the softer metals,
It will remove the iron that will cause their wear.
Examples of magnetic filtration include a magnetic oil drain plug, a wraparound oil filter magnetic array of neodium magnets or
just some loose magnets applied to the outside of the oil filter. This is by no means an exhaustive list of possibilities. I understand
that some folks actually put magnets inside the oil filter. You can actually buy a filter that already includes internal magnets.

I use Filtermag magnets on my oil filter, they are very effective.
Very interesting I’m going to try find some for my 2010 Crown Victoria I’d love to see how far I can push the car before catastrophic failure
 
Magnetic oil filtration will remove a lot of the wear iron from the oil stream. The removal of the hard, abrasive iron
will greatly lower the wear on all internal engine components. While magnetic oil filtration will not directly remove the softer metals,
It will remove the iron that will cause their wear.
Examples of magnetic filtration include a magnetic oil drain plug, a wraparound oil filter magnetic array of neodium magnets or
just some loose magnets applied to the outside of the oil filter. This is by no means an exhaustive list of possibilities. I understand
that some folks actually put magnets inside the oil filter. You can actually buy a filter that already includes internal magnets.

I use Filtermag magnets on my oil filter, they are very effective.

Link to cut open oil filter with magnet on the side which shows the inside being loaded with particles that the magnet caught?

I have an expensive magnetic plug on mine and although it catches a good amount of fine “dust” on the top, I can’t imagine there possibly being any more in the system… at least not with my aluminum engine.
 
Artem, removing any amount of metal that has no business running around in your engine, can only be good.
You have an aluminum engine, what do you suppose all that metal on your drain plug would do to the aluminum
if let loose?
Did you know that by removing iron from the oil will protect the engine seals and the oil pump?
 
I’m totally agreeing with you. I just find it weird that manufacturers don’t implement any type of magnetic filtration in their expensive engines. 95% don’t even come with a simple magnetic drain plug. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
I’m totally agreeing with you. I just find it weird that manufacturers don’t implement any type of magnetic filtration in their expensive engines. 95% don’t even come with a simple magnetic drain plug. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I know that Honda puts a magnetic drain plug in their transmissions, other manufacturers put magnets in their transmissions.
The Honda drain plug has hardly any magnetic power. Sure, metallic particles will accumulate on it, but I am pretty sure
that when a surge goes on the particles are released En mass. You would probably be better off with no magnetic drain plug at all.

What I did was take the Honda automatic transmission fluid drain plug, smash out the piece of junk factory magnet then
fitted a high-powered neodymium magnet. Those magnets are scary strong!

I don't know of any manufacturer that puts a magnet in their engines. I use a Dimple oil drain plug which I think is one of the
best out there. It collects what can be described as "etch-a-sketch" material.
 
The factory magnetic drain plug won't even hold on to any iron object, the neo magnet on the other hand, will not only hold on
tenaciously, it will easily hold up a 7 pound ratchet!
 
They would like to sell you a new car when the old one wears out, that may be why they don't come from the factory with an engine
magnetic oil drain plug.
By using the neodymium magnet, your car will last a lot longer.
 
Miles on Civic 625,765 / 1,007,071 km
Miles on oil 6,430
Amsoil 0W-30 AZO oil
Amsoil Ea15k20 oil filter
AFE Dry Pro S air filter
Dual Filtermag CT3.2 magnetic filters
Dimple magnetic oil drain plug
5 ozs LiquiMoly

1-20-2022 oil report.webp
 
Interesting report. I wonder if the iron uptick is from the recent head gasket leak despite the coolant washing out by now?

Nothing extreme, but some noise closer to the runs with confirmed coolant.

As always, nice to read the reports on this Civic.

I’m considering buying a pair of filter magnets.

Would these be the equivalent to what you own?

https://www.amazon.com/FilterMAG-SS250PR-FilterMag-diameter-Height/dp/B00VTVIUQU/
 
The long term engine wear is continuing to creep upward.

100k miles ago, the Fe wear was reasonably low; around 1.5ppm/1k miles.
Now, over the last several OCIs, the Fe wear is getting very pronounced.

I'm not intimantely familiar with this engine series; is there a timing chain with steel guides? Something seems to be signaling that wear is escalating, fairly strongly.
 
The long term engine wear is continuing to creep upward.

100k miles ago, the Fe wear was reasonably low; around 1.5ppm/1k miles.
Now, over the last several OCIs, the Fe wear is getting very pronounced.

I'm not intimantely familiar with this engine series; is there a timing chain with steel guides? Something seems to be signaling that wear is escalating, fairly strongly.
Could it be from long-term exposure to coolant? Are bearings made of iron along with copper and lead? Bearings are usually what I notice get eaten by coolant.

I agree that wear is probably beginning to accelerate.

As far as I’m aware, all 1990s series in-line 4 Honda engines use a Timing Belt.
 
I ran an experiment this oil change interval. Every gas fill-up received a bottle of Gunout Regane High Mileage Fuel System Cleaner.
I wanted to see what effect it had on the oil. Apparently, it liberated some contaminants coating the inside of the engine, this was minimal
however, it may be the cause of the "dirty" rating from Blackstone labs.
 
The whole dirty thing bugs me.............too dirty for a particle count?

Contaminated?

How could this NOT impact dissolved metals?

I would say, run again and sample cleanly. That should be telling.

Pablo, This is the second time Blackstone was unable to do the particle counts due to "dirty oil" Look at 6-17-2020 on the
report.
 
I ran an experiment this oil change interval. Every gas fill-up received a bottle of Gunout Regane High Mileage Fuel System Cleaner.
I wanted to see what effect it had on the oil. Apparently, it liberated some contaminants coating the inside of the engine, this was minimal
however, it may be the cause of the "dirty" rating from Blackstone labs.
This is interesting. Are you still running Gumout?
 
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