Am I over thinking the Fram Endurance

[Faawrenchbndr]

So I’ve done a ton of research on filters. I’ve probably done too much. You guys are so good at providing information and cutaways. If a guy goes down this rabbit hole, it seems as if there is no bottom.

Anyrate, I just installed an Endurance filter for the 24 F150 with a 3.5L. Then I found information about the bypass valve leaking on these. This is kinda bothering me. I have bought Microguard Select for the next change.

What are your thoughts on the Endutance? Should I leave it in place? Do I remove it and replace it with the Microgard Select? I do plan on a 5K OCI.

**Crap……apologies mods, mistakenly put this here vs the filter page.

 

[cheesepuffs2]

It's fine. Thousand of people are using your same model number of filter, not thinking twice about it, and not having an issue. Don't stress about it.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Yes any Fram Ultra will give you the same efficiency at 20 microns for $4 less. Oh and a Tough Guard for $5 less.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Go visit your nearest Advance Auto Parts store and buy the Carquest (Blue) Premium oil filter. Plenty of protection inside it.
Last sale they ran was for $8.49 I think.

 

[Faawrenchbndr]

Go visit your nearest Advance Auto Parts store and buy the Carquest (Blue) Premium oil filter. Plenty of protection inside it.
Last sale they ran was for $8.49 I think.

I compared that filter with the Microgard, both are well respected.

 

[fantastic]

Well, efficiency claims goes out the window when it's not being filtered as tested. Leaky leaf spring is shown here with consistent "ruffles" so there is a likely hood that yours does as well. Only you can decide if it's worth changing but there are other brands with no leaks past the media. Microgard Select, Premium Guard, Purolator One or Boss etc.

 

[Glenda W.]

Leave it. Microgard Select next oci.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Anyrate, I just installed an Endurance filter for the 24 F150 with a 3.5L. Then I found information about the bypass valve leaking on these. This is kinda bothering me.

It's not actually the bypass valve. It's the leaf spring to end cap metal-to-metal "seal". But ... a leaky Endurance can't be any worse than a non-leaky Boss or Wix XP.

 

[Faawrenchbndr]

I cut the spare open to see 1st hand
Microgard Select it is……

 

[TimeFlies]

Leave it, and next oil change use a better filter.

 

[scoot]

It's not actually the bypass valve. It's the leaf spring to end cap metal-to-metal "seal". But ... a leaky Endurance can't be any worse than a non-leaky Boss or Wix XP.

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Sometimes a hobby can turn into an obsession

 

[TimeFlies]

Sometimes a hobby can turn into an obsession

Never get into motorbikes, drones, boats, or semi trucks. Trust me when I say a simple hobby can soon be life consuming.

 

[ATex7239]

Welp, the engine is a goner.

Kidding obviously. It’ll be fine letting it go but in the future why pay more money for less quality. Stick with the MG Select.

 

[ChrisD46]

Yes any Fram Ultra will give you the same efficiency at 20 microns for $4 less. Oh and a Tough Guard for $5 less.

Besides the micron filter rating , the Endurance has increased flow rate over the Ultra and Tough Guard .

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Besides the micron filter rating , the Endurance has increased flow rate over the Ultra and Tough Guard .

Enough to make a difference in engine life?

 

[Glenda W.]

Yes more flow and less engine life!!

 

[Zee09]

It's perfectly normal to overthink oil filters these days....what was once the gold standard can be absolute garbage today.....

 

[Faawrenchbndr]

Yes more flow and less engine life!!

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Yep…..and that’s the part that bothers me
Anyrate, it’s been removed.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Oops! too late of a reply. Been away for a while.

Even leaking, its filtering a majority of the oil constantly when running and the oil will be clean.

An issue would raise it's head if the engine was pounding out bearings, eating a cam or melted a piston and was chewing cylinder walls. Unless you are Mr. motorsport too late doesn't matter even if 15% of volume is bypassing.

p.s.: Guessing a modest price increase coming on China sourced filters?
- Arco

 

[Glenda W.]

Oops! too late of a reply. Been away for a while.

Even leaking, its filtering a majority of the oil constantly when running and the oil will be clean.

An issue would raise it's head if the engine was pounding out bearings, eating a cam or melted a piston and was chewing cylinder walls. Unless you are Mr. motorsport too late doesn't matter even if 15% of volume is bypassing.

p.s.: Guessing a modest price increase coming on China sourced filters?
- Arco

Exactly why it’s important to run a high efficiency leaking oil filter