$60k Harley Davidson?!!

[blueglide88]

Same obviously goes for you. I'm not as "biased" as you think, but because of your obvious Harley biased, you think anyone who says anything negative about them must be anti-Harly biased, lol. I've ridden a friends Harley, and didn't like it at all - heavy, under powered, ill handling, vibrated way too much ... that's reality from my perspective. Not my cup 'o tea as they say. Those who like 'em ... good for them, but I'd never buy one for what you get.

You didn’t answer to any of the points I addressed pertaining to your comments.

You mentioned performance, yet you can’t explain why there are no Gold Wings in police service or competing in police rodeo competitions?

You mentioned HD getting more technically advanced because they had to, yet failed to address my question of which motorcycle company hasn’t had to get more technically advanced? How is having to adjust valves in this day and age like you have to on a Gold Wing justified?

Do you want to address any of these issues that YOU brought up and implied that HD was falling short on?

Why does HD sell more heavyweight motorcycles than any other manufacturer? Maybe because they build a superior product that people want? That will last way longer than the disposable motorcycles made by the competition?

Try to twist sales figures all you want but people vote with their wallets. There’s a reason Toyota sells a lot of cars and Fiat doesn’t. Same applies here. Sorry your in the minority, but I’m guessing you don’t own a Fiat for a reason

I’m not biased. I’m simply correcting your disinformation and wow you are spewing a whole lot of it

One last thing. Pray tell us all what is your current ride? I’d like to get an idea on where your perspectives are coming from

 

[ZeeOSix]

You didn’t answer to any of the points I addressed pertaining to your comments.

You mentioned performance, yet you can’t explain why there are no Gold Wings in police service or competing in police rodeo competitions?

LoL ... that's your definition of "performance"? Far cry from real performance.

Why does HD sell more heavyweight motorcycles than any other manufacturer? Maybe because they build a superior product that people want?

Sales based on perception, but not because it's a "superior" product. Survey from 12,300 motorcycle buyers. Hardly isn't the most "superior" product made.

I’m not biased. I’m simply correcting your disinformation and wow you are spewing a whole lot of it

You are obviously biased. The Harley I road didn't impress at all, and I didn't like it ... like said, maybe they aren't all the same, or better these days. So it's not "disinformation" (your trying to start a defection argument) ... it's facts of my perception of the Harley I rode. Like said, not enough bike for me in many categories for what they cost.

 

[blueglide88]

LoL ... that's your definition of "performance"? Far cry from real performance.


Sales based on perception, but not because it's a "superior" product. Survey from 12,300 motorcycle buyers. Hardly isn't the most "superior" product made.

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You are obviously biased. The Harley I road didn't impress at all, and I didn't like it ... like said, maybe they aren't all the same, or better these days. So it's not "disinformation" (you’re trying to start a defection argument) ... it's facts of my perception of the Harley I rode. Like said, not enough bike for me in many categories for what they cost.

Police duty certainly tests a motorcycle under extreme conditions. Running a police rodeo course is definitely a measure of performance that the Gold Wing can’t compete in. If you have evidence otherwise, show us. If you think a rodeo is not a measure of maneuverability , braking, acceleration, and balance again please tell us how it isn’t.

A police rodeo has more to do with every day riding and accident avoidance than any quarter mile time or race track lap time. I really don’t think you ride, or you’re a very inexperienced rider.

A old 2015 survey of 12k owners? Compared to the amount of bikes sold every year? Wow dude your argument falls short in so many ways

https://funtransport.com/blog/most-reliable-motorcycle-brands/

Consumer reports doesn’t even do that survey anymore for reasons listed in the above article.

From the same consumer reports article that YOU cite Is this interesting bit of information

“But owner satisfaction—i.e., happiness—is an entirely different measure from reliability. Eighty percent of Victory owners said they would definitely buy the same bike if they were to do it all over again. Harley-Davidson owners were quite happy, with 72 percent responding likewise, trailed closely by Honda at 70 percent. All other brands were below 70 percent.”

I’d call 72%, only second to Victory, a superior product.

I can pull out an old survey too which show HD has the highest satisfaction rating lol
https://www.webbikeworld.com/harley-riders-most-satisfied-says-survey/

Again I’d call that a superior product.


Now tell us what you ride so we can see where your bias is coming from? Do you even ride or are your opinions uninformed?

 

[ZZman]

There’s nothing insane about spending $60,000 on a motorcycle if you have $60,000 to spend.

Obvious the person who did the video in the OP post probably can’t afford a motorcycle at all.

I don’t understand the whole purpose of the post.
Other than the person sounds jealous he can’t buy a custom motorcycle. Just a lot of whining, and nothing else.

But I guess it’s a good thread for a bunch of ignorant remarks.

I think 60,000 for any vehicle is ridiculous.

 

[KrisZ]

Harley may have many desirable attributes, but performance is not one of them, cmon let’s be real. They don’t have the brakes, the acceleration and the lean angle and those are the basics.

 

[blueglide88]

Harley may have many desirable attributes, but performance is not one of them, cmon let’s be real. The don’t have the brakes, the acceleration and the lean angle and those are the basics.

Again what do you call performance? How many Japanese motorcycles do you see competing in a police rodeo? None, zip, nada. That’s all about acceleration, braking, lean angle, and tight turning ability. No sport bike can do that. And like I said that has so much more to do with everyday riding than anything on the track or strip.

If you think a sport bike has the maneuverability to save your bacon at the last second where a car turns in front of you, you’re dead wrong. And I mean dead. It just can’t make tight turns. You hit the steering lock way before you make a tight turn. Go to your local parking lot and try to do a 180 degree turn within 2 parking spaces. You won’t do it. That’s 18 feet BTW


If you are talking track or strip times, then yes HD doesn’t compete in that arena. But they don’t build their bikes to do that nor do they pretend to. It’s an entirely different classification of motorcycle. I don’t see any F-150’s entered in the Indy 500 either

 

[blueglide88]

However HD has dominated dirt track racing for many years

https://www.topspeed.com/motorcycle...on-xr750-the-bike-that-couldn-t-stop-winning/

 

[ZeeOSix]

I really don’t think you ride, or you’re a very inexperienced rider.

Probably been riding for longer than you, and out ride you too. How long have you been riding and how many bikes have you ridden?

Keep on with trying to convince me that Harleys are the best bikes in the world, because they aren't for me. Keep wearing those Harley glasses.

 

[brianl703]

Harley may have many desirable attributes, but performance is not one of them, cmon let’s be real. They don’t have the brakes, the acceleration and the lean angle and those are the basics.

But if you remove the baffles, people will hear you from 2-3 miles away, and that seems to be a big attraction for their typical customer...

 

[blueglide88]

Probably been riding for longer than you, and out ride you too. How long have you been riding and how many bikes have you ridden?

Keep on with trying to convince me that Harleys are the best bikes in the world, because they aren't for me. Keep wearing those Harley glasses.

I’ve been riding since the 70’s. As you can see in my signature just between my two current bikes that I bought new I have close to 300k experience. Add in the other 5 bikes I’ve owned over the years and I’m close to 500k.

Your turn big boy. You don’t have anything in your signature. I’d say you don’t ride.

 

[KrisZ]

Again what do you call performance? How many Japanese motorcycles do you see competing in a police rodeo? None, zip, nada. That’s all about acceleration, braking, lean angle, and tight turning ability. No sport bike can do that. And like I said that has so much more to do with everyday riding than anything on the track or strip.

If you think a sport bike has the maneuverability to save your bacon at the last second where a car turns in front of you, you’re dead wrong. And I mean dead. It just can’t make tight turns. You hit the steering lock way before you make a tight turn. Go to your local parking lot and try to do a 180 degree turn within 2 parking spaces. You won’t do it. That’s 18 feet BTW


If you are talking track or strip times, then yes HD doesn’t compete in that arena. But they don’t build their bikes to do that nor do they pretend to. It’s an entirely different classification of motorcycle. I don’t see any F-150’s entered in the Indy 500 either

oh yeah, it’s forgot that sport bikes don’t have the maneuverability

 

[ZeeOSix]

I’ve been riding since the 70’s. As you can see in my signature just between my two current bikes that I bought new I have close to 300k experience. Add in the other 5 bikes I’ve owned over the years and I’m close to 500k.

Your turn big boy. You don’t have anything in your signature. I’d say you don’t ride.

LoL ... I don't brag about stuff in my signature. I've posted photos of some of my bikes in threads in this forum.

Been riding since 1968, and have owned around 20 bikes and have ridden way many more when working at a few bike shops. How's that "big boy" ... lol.

 

[blueglide88]

oh yeah, it’s forgot that sport bikes don’t have the maneuverability

When you show me one of those on a police rodeo course, I’ll give it props.

 

[blueglide88]

20 bikes and maybe 20k experience?

 

[blueglide88]

LoL ... I don't brag about stuff in my signature. I've posted photos of some of my bikes in threads in this forum.

Been riding since 1968, and have owned around 20 bikes and have ridden way many more when working at a few bike shops. How's that "big boy" ... lol.

20 bikes and 20k experience since 1968?

If I were you I wouldn’t try to brag either, big boy

 

[ZeeOSix]

When you show me one of those on a police rodeo course, I’ll give it props.

News flash ... police rodeos are the new Nürburgring.

 

[ZeeOSix]

20 bikes and 20k experience?

If I were you I wouldn’t try to brag either, big boy

Just another troll with nothing but put downs.

 

[blueglide88]

News flash ... police rodeos are the new Nürburgring.

Newsflash ZeeOSix is the new Valentino Rossi

 

[ZeeOSix]

Newsflash ZeeOSix is the new Valentino Rossi

Which you're nothing close to on that "hog". Maybe around some orange cones you get going pretty good.

 

[blueglide88]

Just another troll with nothing but put downs.

That’s all you’ve done dude. You never answered any points about the Honda Rune. You said HD only advanced their bikes technology wise because they had to, but when I said every manufacturer did that and asked you to list one that didn’t, silence on your part. You only keep trashing HD’s with crap like poor performance and handling. When I asked what jap crap runs a police rodeo, again silence. When I state a police bike runs in extreme conditions and show me The Gd Wing that does that, silence YOU are the troll.