2022 wrx

[TiGeo]

Don't disagree with 90 percent of your post. Not trying p to put your kid down, bud. The fact that you're sending to college in a 40k car shows your trust in your upbringing. The fact that he's attending college shows he listened and made it to college.

Not questioning any of that....what I question is the new wrx platform and the entire wrx community that's full of bad influence.....and a load of bad advice. Don't even get me started on SOA oil recommendations and the choice of transmission.

I just offered a bit of advice based on countless friends I have working for Subaru coupled with building them, racing them, owning them.

Basically, I don't sugar coat anything. I'm abrupt and to the point.

I want my fellow gearheads and their families to enjoy trouble free motoring and not rely on dealers denying warranty work for every insignificant, unrelated, minute thing like I seen in the past.

Case and point, I'm waiting on a 2021 outback xt with a blown engine. Denied warranty work due to using 0-40. This is the second engine in that car under 40k miles. First engine was dealer serviced using 0-20, covered under warranty. This is a family that has the 21xt, a 20xt, and a Ascent. The 20xt is on 2nd engine itself, all dealer maintained. The Ascent has 0 issues and it's the highest mileage in the fleet.

Subaru is not what it once was. IMHO, quality control has gone wayyyyyyyyy downhill.

Good luck to you.

You should post your warranty denied on 0W40 here:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...y-warranty-denied-because-of-oil-used.358495/

 

[edyvw]

There was a video Subaru put out for the last gen that had a pro rally car driver testing the CVT version. Her preferred it to the manual.

From strictly performance numbers or fun? I mean, manual lost performance game long time ago.
Plus, those events are always organized when company wants to convince people into buying something.

 

[TiGeo]

From strictly performance numbers or fun? I mean, manual lost performance game long time ago.
Plus, those events are always organized when company wants to convince people into buying something.

I remember when it only came manual.

 

[TiGeo]

You're so correct....it's emotional issues that I have to work on. It's not the fact that I rebuilt dozens of Fa's and Ejs for parents that bought these things to me due to being denied warranty work at the dealer, but their sweet angel did nothing wrong....never succumbed to peer pressure and did donuts in the snow or got into a stop light race.

Don't worry, use whatever oil is not spec for that car, don't keep receipts, etc. You'll be fine. He'll drive it like a grandma and never speed or beat on it. That car will never need to go back under warranty, if it does, they will take your word for it and fix it for you..FREE OF CHARGE. THEY'LL NEVER LOOK FOR ANY REASON TO DENY YOU.

Just trying to give some advice based on the experience and reality of working on and with these cars....nothing else.

You decided to take things out of context and be a Richard about it. Please understand, I didn't mean to offend you or the operator of the car. But...

Maybe you need to face reality, bud. That's a $40k 265hp sports sedan. Even the best behaved kids succumb to peer pressure. World is full of "he didn't do nuffin' , he would never do that, not my kid" stories. I just had 2 stories leave my driveway....parents pockets are lighter because of it.

Don't get so offended. Do everything to keep your warranty on such an expensive car. They're not cheap to fix.

Have a great day, sir.

This thread..hahahahah...271 hp isn't a that much in 2022 but certainly a fun car to drive. Just get the kid a HPDE weekend and he'll be sorted and probably a better driver in that car that many of the older folks here. I'm quite sure he won't be led down the dark path of vaping, Cobb tunes, catless downpipes, warranty denials, etc. while he is in college. If he maintains the car per Subaru (un-modified) why would there be a concern about warranty claims? I sure hope a car like this can handle some snow donuts and a few stop light races. I'd have no issue buying one for any of my 3 teenage boys or a GTI, Civic Si...cars in this class.

 

[TiGeo]

From strictly performance numbers or fun? I mean, manual lost performance game long time ago.
Plus, those events are always organized when company wants to convince people into buying something.

I'll be honest, I am intrigued by the CVT in these...would just like to drive it and see how it feels vs. others that have the hamster wheel/rubber band feel and sound. 100% would get the manual in this car.

 

[buster]

From strictly performance numbers or fun? I mean, manual lost performance game long time ago.
Plus, those events are always organized when company wants to convince people into buying something.

True.

I drove both and I honestly felt the CVT in sport mode with the paddle shifters was better.

 

[Tifosi]

I saw it.
You are deviating from recommended grade, but still want to use inferior rating to approvals M1 0W40 carries, or any oil that is approved for same specifications.
I am not arguing with you, but ILSAC GF6 is energy conserving specification with inferior limits to any European approval oils like M1 0W40 carry.

If you really want something more, but lighter then M1 0W40:
Castrol - 152B99-6PK 06244 Edge A3/B4 0W-30 Advanced Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 1 Quart, 6 Pack https://a.co/d/1RP34Wz

By the way, who is making things up? What are you talking about?

You want advice here. Here you go.

Now you read it, but obviously not comprehending it.

A prerequisite in offering advice is to understand other's concern first, what you do is you offer YOUR opinion and very little else. People are not here so you can feed your ego, you really are not that special here on this forum.

 

[Razorsharpe]

So I recently bought a 2022 wrx. I'm doing research on different oils and such. The top two I'm most intrigued by are of course amsoil and high performance lubricants premium plus ot whatever. I'm curious of everyone's thoughts. I also want to get a high quality filter as well. Any suggestions on either oil or filter?

How do you plan to use the car?

 

[edyvw]

Now you read it, but obviously not comprehending it.

A prerequisite in offering advice is to understand other's concern first, what you do is you offer YOUR opinion and very little else. People are not here so you can feed your ego, you really are not that special here on this forum.

What opinion? Do you actually know the minimum performance limits API SP and ILSAC GF6 have compared to MB229.5, Porsche A40, LL01 etc.?

You are constantly telling people that they have to address issues, and we all figured that there is only one person that has issues here.
Not sure why you came here asking anything when you already made up your mind, except to tell us how your kid is going to college. Congratulations, you did something that millions of parents did and are doing.

 

[Pablo]

Now you read it, but obviously not comprehending it.

A prerequisite in offering advice is to understand other's concern first, what you do is you offer YOUR opinion and very little else. People are not here so you can feed your ego, you really are not that special here on this forum.

No offense or anything but you did exactly this.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

Congrats on the car!
I would go with HPL (just like everyone in this thread suggested).
advlubrication.com ---> then scroll down and pick your flavor:
- Heavy Duty Engine Oil
- Passenger Car Engine Oil
- Premium Passenger Car Engine Oil
- Premium Plus Passenger Car Engine Oil
- Euro Passenger Car Engine Oil
- Super Car Engine Oil
- Bad A$$ Racing Oil
Plenty of viscosity grades to choose from too. Ranging from 0W-8 to 10W-60. Although I wouldn't risk using anything with less MOFT than 0W30/5W30 provides... Plus I like my HT/HS above 3.5...

This is SOUND ADVICE. M1 ESP 5W-30 is HTHS 3.5 and M1 0W-40 HTHS 3.6.

If you can't get the HPL stuff (? Supermarket 0W or 5W 30 whichever W they had) pick up Mobil 1 0W-40 or 5W-30 ESP but that perhaps shouldn't be necessary, how does Subaru break in their engines?

 

[TiGeo]

True.

I drove both and I honestly felt the CVT in sport mode with the paddle shifters was better.

I mean what does that guy know right? hahahaha. I guess if they can get the stop points for the gears in that CVT to be hard-hitting/precise feeling is should feel good/similar to a dual-clutch?

 

[bluesubie]

This is SOUND ADVICE. M1 ESP 5W-30 is HTHS 3.5 and M1 0W-40 HTHS 3.6.

If you can't get the HPL stuff (? Supermarket 0W or 5W 30 whichever W they had) pick up Mobil 1 0W-40 or 5W-30 ESP but that perhaps shouldn't be necessary, how does Subaru break in their engines?

I would advise not using M1 0W-40 in this engine. ESP yes, but not a high SAPS oil like the regular M1 0W-40. One of the top Subaru engine builders in the country found issues in the 2.0DIT running Motul X-cess. I would think that this 2.4DIT wouldn't be much different.

 

[edyvw]

I would advise not using M1 0W-40 in this engine. ESP yes, but not a high SAPS oil like the regular M1 0W-40. One of the top Subaru engine builders in the country found issues in the 2.0DIT running Motul X-cess. I would think that this 2.4DIT wouldn't be much different.

IVD issues?

 

[bluesubie]

IVD issues?

I presume so. But the email reply they sent to someone that posted on another forum wasn't specific.

Thanks for contacting IAG Performance. Yes, we have switched many of these cars over to the X-Clean EFE 5W30 oil. We had found issues with carbon generation with the X-Cess oil in some direct injection applications.

That was in 2018 after the 2.0DIT had been out for about 4 years. They continue to recommend X-Clean on their built 2.0 engines and X-Cess only for the non-DI 2.5T found in the STI.

 

[edyvw]

I presume so. But the email reply they sent to someone that posted on another forum wasn't specific.


That was in 2018 after the 2.0DIT had been out for about 4 years. They continue to recommend X-Clean on their built 2.0 engines and X-Cess only for the non-DI 2.5T found in the STI.

So IVD. Yeah, Low-SAPS. PPE L 5W30 or M1 ESP 0W30 would be good.

 

[buster]

I presume so. But the email reply they sent to someone that posted on another forum wasn't specific.


That was in 2018 after the 2.0DIT had been out for about 4 years. They continue to recommend X-Clean on their built 2.0 engines and X-Cess only for the non-DI 2.5T found in the STI.

Interesting this is the first time I’ve seen someone say they actually saw a difference when using a lower SA oil.

 

[edyvw]

Interesting this is the first time I’ve seen someone say they actually saw a difference when using a lower SA oil.

I think eyeballing is not preferred method.

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

I would advise not using M1 0W-40 in this engine. ESP yes, but not a high SAPS oil like the regular M1 0W-40. One of the top Subaru engine builders in the country found issues in the 2.0DIT running Motul X-cess. I would think that this 2.4DIT wouldn't be much different.

High SAPS?

See, this is why I read here.. I do not know it all, and I probably should write down that M1 is High SAPS (Sulfated Ash, Phosphorus, Sulfur.)

Direct Injection Turbo. I'm so used to NA. What about a Mid or Low SAPS oil? Any examples?

 

[Pablo]

People on BITOG need to be careful of folks just tossing oils out there as if serious recommendations.