$2 VS. $12> OPINIONS!

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For the longest, I have used either K&N or Mobil 1 oil filters. Usually, Royal Purple motor oil in the Spring, Summer, and Fall, with a K&N, and Mobil 1 0-30 with Mobil 1's filter in the dead of winter. STILL warm in the deep south, all things considered.

Lately, I have been amazed with the Wal Mart Super Tech oil filter! I think it's a Bosch. At a...$1.97!
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Thoughts on your favorites??
 
Lots of folks really like the ST filter. My preference is the Purolator Pure one - excellent filtration and good flow (not the best).
 
Yesterday, I scored Chevron Supreme for $.97 a quart. Made me very happy.
I like Napa Gold or Purolator filters, but I suspect my Cherokee doesn't care either way.
 
IMO, the Supertech filter is a better deal. I wouldn't buy a M1 or K&N filter simply on price. All three are made by Champion Labs. For filtration I'd pick the Pure One, for flow I'd use the Regular Purolator, and for a comprimise I use the AC Delco. All are under $5.

-T
 
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The best is donaldson. High flow synthetic filter media.

The Syntec tested to be middle of the pack as far as filtration, right along with M1, regular Fram, AC, AMS, and Baldwin. Can't speak on flow for Syntec, but those in that catigory tended to flow better than the best filtering types.

The super tech's filtration is close to the above filters. It tested the same as K&N, and STP. Filters in this catigory tended to flow better than the above group, including the Super Tech.

Bottom line: buy what your comforable with, but I don't think you need to spend any extra money to get a good filter.

If you haven't already check out the oil filter study, there's a lot of good information there. Hopefully the link is back up at: www.oilfilterstudy.com
 
There have been some good studies and some poor studies. There has been lots of UOA's. My conclusion: Amsoil sells a good filter (via Kearny, Nebraska), but I don't use an Amsoil filter.

I use Mann and I use Motorcraft. My cars have not suffered one iota of detectable harm for my choices.
 
Well, as Bob's test indicated it probably makes no difference at all over the life of an engine what filter you use as long as it does not fall apart and do damage.

With that said I have been swayed the flow is more important then filtration and I use K&N and Amsoil, mostly Amosil through years of habit I guess. Personally, just like a human body, most of it is genetics (design/engineering) with good food (oil) and maintenance it will go a long way. Filters, well, pretty much useless IMO!
 
I use Motorcraft @ $2.97 from Walmart and have used it recently for an 8,200 mile OCI with no problem. My insolubles were .4% which I believe shows it's still doing it's job of filtering ok.

Whimsey
 
I am a big fan of the OEM. I have chopped open some AC's and a Mazda and liked what I saw compared to other filters even the more expensive Hastings. I see good reports here on Motorcraft and Honda OEM's. Bottom line, if you can find a reasonably priced OEM, stick with it. Otherwise an ST is about as good as anything else and cheaper than all except Value Craft which might be good too.

I am using ST on my truck and Purolator on my car. I can find the L 15436 element for my Ecotec cheaper than the ST 9018.
 
I just took my wife's Concorde in to the Chrysler dealership for free oil change they offer on new cars. They sell the Mopar filter for $6.60 and from what I've learned from this site is that it is a Purolator Premium Plus. That filter goes for around $2.50 at Meijers, and of course the Super Tech for $2.07. I can't see paying for an OEM filter when I can purchase 3 Purolators or ST"s for basically the same price.
 
You can pick up AC's and Motorcrafts in many places for about the same price as Purolator. Anybody concerned with price doesn't go to their stealer. Last filter I bought at my Chevy dealer was $8.
 
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Originally posted by ULVER:
For the longest, I have used either K&N or Mobil 1 oil filters. Usually, Royal Purple motor oil in the Spring, Summer, and Fall, with a K&N, and Mobil 1 0-30 with Mobil 1's filter in the dead of winter. STILL warm in the deep south, all things considered.

Lately, I have been amazed with the Wal Mart Super Tech oil filter! I think it's a Bosch. At a...$1.97!
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Thoughts on your favorites??


I think the Baldwin filters have hit the sweet spot between flow and filtration. The best price I could find for my filter (B31) is around 7 clams each.

Bob W.
 
I shoot for the middle - about $6 for a Wix. Great filtration and flow IMHO too.
If I had a complete beater (or a car with a bypass in the block) I'd buy a Supertech; but I'd probably never cough up the cheese for a Mobil 1/K&N.
 
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Originally posted by Virtuoso:
I shoot for the middle - about $6 for a Wix. Great filtration and flow IMHO too.
If I had a complete beater (or a car with a bypass in the block) I'd buy a Supertech; but I'd probably never cough up the cheese for a Mobil 1/K&N.


A previous poster indicated that he had a couple of Napa Gold filters (made by Wix) leak on him. I noticed the exact same thing. Other than that I had good luck with them.

K&N's are nice because they have that welded on inch square nut, which makes changing a snap. I put one on a 98 Silverado and it seemed to run quite well with it.

Bob W.
 
I've used the ST filters for a few years now with no problems encountered or engine failures. All of my UOA's have been up to par also. Why spend $12 when a $2 does the same thing. ST filters I use

2003 Trailblazer ST3675
1998 Monte Carlo ST3980
1998 Wrangler ST8A

I would use SuperTech's for my 2000 Wrangler also but I run a remote filter setup and use a huge filter that ST does not make an equivalent. Therefore I use a Wix or Purolator.

My 2002 Camaro SS LS1 I'm anal about so I feel better paying more for a Wix. LOL
 
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Originally posted by labman:
I am a big fan of the OEM. I have chopped open some AC's and a Mazda and liked what I saw compared to other filters even the more expensive Hastings. I see good reports here on Motorcraft and Honda OEM's. Bottom line, if you can find a reasonably priced OEM, stick with it. Otherwise an ST is about as good as anything else and cheaper than all except Value Craft which might be good too.

I am using ST on my truck and Purolator on my car. I can find the L 15436 element for my Ecotec cheaper than the ST 9018.


Hubba hubba!!!!!! Whatever the heck a "hubba" is.

I believe the AC/Delco filters are consistently good quality since the firm manufacturing them wants to keep the contract with AC/Delco and will do that little bit extra to ensure a consistently good quality product hits the shelves.

I have worked at various production facilities and have seen how some customers are catered to more then others.

An additional plus is if one's engine dies for whatever reason while the warranty is still in effect. In case the dealer/manufacturer hesitates or tried to wiggle out of their duty showing that one has used the exact product recommended (yes, other filter brands are allowed) is extra ammunition in case one has to fight in court. An unlikely event but, since filters are similar and most are priced similarly, why not stick with the filter associated with the vehicle's manufacturer?

When I took my 78 Toyota pick-up to the dealer to have the exhaust manifold replaced under a recall I mentioned off-handedly that I used only Toyota brand filters, brake pads, etc etc and that I was very pleased with the quality. When I picked up the truck 3 days later the service writer mentioned that I should look at the work order/receipt when I got home. Curious, I did so in the parking lot. Not only was the manifold replaced but....... I was now in possession of a new catalytic convertor, muffler and all the exhaust piping, flanges etc. An entirely new exhaust system!!!!!!!!!!! That was in California and the truck had passed the smog test so I knew the cat was working, the muffler was fine, all was fine except for a minute crack in the exhaust manifold. I didn't go back and ask why all the new parts were added. Why look a "gift horse" in the mouth? But, I wondered why all the new parts. Could it have been my declaring I used mostly Toyota brand parts?

Just sumpthin' to consider.

Your mileage will assuredly vary.
 
Ulver,
I'm a Baldwin fan myself. Pablo has it right, Amsoil makes a great quality filter, above average filtration, much better than average flow rates, great build quality. Disadvantage, though, is the $10 to $12 dollar price tag of the Amsoil filters. If I'm not mistaken from some of the literature and chat rooms I've read...Amsoil filters are made by the same folks who make Baldwin filters in Kearney Nebraska. I have purchased my Baldwins on website for about $4-5 bucks per filter. My father purchased his Baldwin B-2 at his local farm implement fleet store for $3 and change. You oughta check them out for yourself at www.baldwinfilters.com!!
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