13,000 miles on cheap dino !!!

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Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
I was dating this chick for awhile a few years back. Somehow we got to talking about our cars one night when we were on the phone. The subject came to how many miles our cars had on them. She said her`s had a lil over 30k. I somehow mentioned that I needed to change my car`s oil. The next thing she said was,"Huh? You mean a car is supposed to have it`s oil changed???????"


I had a girl friend exactly like that years ago. Her parents bought her a brand new Toyota pickup. It had about 10,000 miles on it and had NEVER even had the usual 500 mile oil change after break-in.
 
Originally Posted By: Trvlr500
Years ago (back in the late seventies) I worked as a pump jockey in Southern California. The mechanic there at the gas station I worked at worked at a Cadillac dealership previously.

They had a customer come in because his Caddy was running poorly. Turns out he hadn't changed the oil in 100,000 miles. Just filters and adding oil.

They drained the sludge, put tranny fluid in it and ran in for 5 minutes, refilled it and when the customer came in to pick it up he said, "Well, good for another 100,000!"

True story.


Seems there are some people that think oil doesn't wear out, and top up and change filters for the life of the car. Funny thing is they get 100,000 miles or more out of them. Truth is the oil doesn't wear out, its the additives that wear out, and the oil gets dirty. But they only remember that the oil itself doesn't wear out and base their decision not to change it on that alone. Selective hearing!

Frank D
 
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
One of my friends has a 1998 F-150 4.6 that gets oil changes with dino every 10K miles or so of it's lucky. It gets no other maintenance to speak of. It still runs and drives great with 120K on the odometer. The brake rotors are badly warped, and it has a cracked PCV hose, but otherwise it doesn't have any problems.

When I worked at JL we had an early 1990s Camry come in with practically no oil. I took the plug out and was barely able to get some drops of sludge out. The car did not sound good, but it ran. Some customers had good intentions about adding oil, but just couldn't figure it out. One guy brought in his late 1990s Passat after filling it until the oil reached the fill hole. Somehow the car was running, though very badly.

Another JL story...another employee there had an Escort that had not had an oil change in at least three years. The oil filter was covered in rust. She said that she didn't know cars needed oil changes before working at JL. Go figure.


Reminds me of my brother, has an 01' F150. Probably 8-10K dino oil changes and no other maintenance unless something breaks. And of course, somehow, with 175K miles, the truck runs quite well
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My other bro's first vehicle was a 92' F150 with the 302, got the truck with 199K, sold it with 252K, no oil or filter changes and it still ran well, he beat the heck out of that thing too
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I could go on into the night, but a couple more:

Early 1990's diesel Golf came into the WM TLE I worked at, with over 300k km on the clock. No oil showing on the d/s. I talk to the owner while I'm getting him to sign a waiver, and he has no idea when the oil last got changed. Gathered it was years ago.

Get under the car, and its like someone has painted the bottom of the car with thick black grease. You can't even really tell what is the filter, its so greased-over. I manage to wrench it loose, and its HEAVY. I pull the drain plug, and a tiny trickle of very, very thick ink black sludge comes out. Maybe one-half liter.

In putting the new filter on, its gets so dirty on the process from the [censored] around it, it looks old by the time I'm done. I put fresh Castrol GTX 15W-40 in it, start it, and when I check the level after it running for a minute, its as black as coal. not a word of a lie here!

Another time, a foreign woman comes in with an old Toyota Camry, asks for an oil change, and we manage to sell her an engine flush. Car comes in, oil light on, clicking, clacking, and knocking to beat the band. No oil on stick, get her to sign waver, add some oil and engine flush, and start engine.

As the engine is running, it starts getting LOUDER and knocking more. Other guys in the shop are worried car is going to blow right then and there, but I won't shut it off - she signed the waiver, she knows what could happen. Finish the flush, do the service w/YB 10w-30, and back the car out of the shop, know knocking wawy lousder than when it came in. Explain to the customer again we are NOT responsible if the engine goes. She readily agrees, get in the car, and drives away with it sounding like its going to blow any minute!
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint


Seems there are some people that think oil doesn't wear out, and top up and change filters for the life of the car. Funny thing is they get 100,000 miles or more out of them.


I can't stop laughing while reading this. Can Blackstone still do a UOA if the oil is no longer in liquid form?
 
Originally Posted By: Alexbobus
This is a great thread....I had a good friend that had a 1970 Buick Grand Sport that someone had backed into the front end and bent the hood down such that it couldn't be opened. It was just town driven and maybe once a year did a road trip of 100 miles. Anyway, he decides to take a big road trip to New Orleans and asked if I would service his car. I got a crow bar and bent the hood back up so that I could open it and what a mess. As best I could tell the hood hadn't been opened in over two years. The air cleaner had a rodents nest, radiator was very low, battery was about dry and the oil looked like thick, grey paint. This was years ago and STP marketed an oil and filters. I thought this was the best oil to use for this at the time and changed the oil and serviced the car. He took his trip w/o incident and when I tried to show him how to check things, he said that he didn't need to because I would always be there to take care of it. Hard to argue with a buddy and I wish he was still alive to service his car for him.


Never commented on this before, but I'd guess that the 'grey paint' colour of this oil was from the leaded gas that would have been used back in the 1970's. A lot of short trips would dumped huge amounts of leaded gas into the the crankcase of a carburated, 1970's V-8!!!

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Another thread revived from the archives of death!
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From reading these horror stories it's obvious that bitogers treat their cars *too* nicely. We argue about oil brand, dino/syn, viscosity, add packs... when all that really matters is to remember to *change* the oil regularly... with *any* oil
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I guess this new oil monitoring technology might help boneheads know they need to change the oil.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Originally Posted By: Alexbobus
This is a great thread....I had a good friend that had a 1970 Buick Grand Sport that someone had backed into the front end and bent the hood down such that it couldn't be opened. It was just town driven and maybe once a year did a road trip of 100 miles. Anyway, he decides to take a big road trip to New Orleans and asked if I would service his car. I got a crow bar and bent the hood back up so that I could open it and what a mess. As best I could tell the hood hadn't been opened in over two years. The air cleaner had a rodents nest, radiator was very low, battery was about dry and the oil looked like thick, grey paint. This was years ago and STP marketed an oil and filters. I thought this was the best oil to use for this at the time and changed the oil and serviced the car. He took his trip w/o incident and when I tried to show him how to check things, he said that he didn't need to because I would always be there to take care of it. Hard to argue with a buddy and I wish he was still alive to service his car for him.


Never commented on this before, but I'd guess that the 'grey paint' colour of this oil was from the leaded gas that would have been used back in the 1970's. A lot of short trips would dumped huge amounts of leaded gas into the the crankcase of a carburated, 1970's V-8!!!

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At the VIOC I work at i've seen oil come out grey that was run far too long, so it could be something other than leaded gas too. Not sure what though.
 
I have a buddy who went 30K without changing his oil. He developed a tick in his motor and couldn't figure out why. He finally realized he had not changed his oil for 30K miles. Amazes me how people get away with this. His truck runs fine to this day.
 
funny that this thread came up,two days ago at work a guy i went to high school with brought his girlfriends car in(neither one are very bright) well the car was an autozone special with racing seat covers and stickers galore along with the amp power wires running through the door jam.

while changing the oil i have a hard time getting the filter off cause its very tight and an older(98ish) 2.2 cavalier. once i get it off i notice its an old style ac delco filter thats dated for 2007. someone happens to notice the old oil change sticker in the window is dated for the same date but the mileage on the sticker read 12,000 miles and the car had 155,000 on it. the oil was so black is stained your skin on contact so we believe the mileage to be somewhat correct which means the car went 143,000 miles on one oil change.
 
just found out my sister hasnt changed her oil since she moved down to SC, 3 years ago. Dino.

I was changing my familys cars all with Penzoil Ultra and she says "oh, you need to come down and do my truck, i havent changed the oil since ive moved."

I know she at least put 2k miles on it just driving down there, then 3 years of city driving in hilton head.
 
Originally Posted By: panthermike
Maybe it meant 120,000? I don't think any car could survive 143,000 without an oil change, but who knows?


If it uses oil, and was topped off even semi-regularly, I could see it surviving.

If no top-ups were done, the oil wouldn't even be liquid anymore.
 
Originally Posted By: dime
funny that this thread came up,two days ago at work a guy i went to high school with brought his girlfriends car in(neither one are very bright) well the car was an autozone special with racing seat covers and stickers galore along with the amp power wires running through the door jam.

while changing the oil i have a hard time getting the filter off cause its very tight and an older(98ish) 2.2 cavalier. once i get it off i notice its an old style ac delco filter thats dated for 2007. someone happens to notice the old oil change sticker in the window is dated for the same date but the mileage on the sticker read 12,000 miles and the car had 155,000 on it. the oil was so black is stained your skin on contact so we believe the mileage to be somewhat correct which means the car went 143,000 miles on one oil change.


If the filter and sticker were dated for 2007, I doubt anyone could drive 143k miles in 3 years.

Must have been 120k miles at the time of the change, which means the oil has 35k miles on it in 3 years. That makes sense.

Still, that's a lot of mileage on a fill of oil!
 
Originally Posted By: johnd
i had a '76 VW Rabbit that developed bad valve guides and used a lot of oil-about 1 qt. every 400 mi. I added so much oil that the oil never got dirty looking. i finally just took to changing the filter about every 4K mi. I finally had them replace the valve stem seals and went back to regular oil changes. Sold the car, still running, at 330K mi. and the engine had never been apart. Same trans and clutch too, though I did break the clutch cable and about 130K.
that is a costant oil change!!! almost like a TP bypass filter.
 
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