YouTube Influencer crashes GA aircraft, questions on a lot of things

[wpod]

o.k, I will comment.

I don't care how much extra money I would make, I would never encourage a student to keep trying if it was obvious they just don't get it and are dangerous.

Some pilots ( even after they somehow got their license) do not know how weak they are.

Having an interest doesn't mean they will ever have the ability.

More and more want to be a pilot because it's "cool" I notice ( they admit it ).

I got into flying because I love planes.

I love planes and even steered a Cessna 152 almost enough where I could land it in perfect conditions with my friend that was giving lessons and when ever he had an opening for a demo flight I would go for a ride . I spent lost time drinking many cups of coffee in the cockpit of our customer's 747 freighters [ the coolest thing ever] and I do not consider myself pilot material. A person gots to know certain limits.

 

[dnewton3]

I'm not a pilot, so my opinion should have little weight, but I will chime in.

Seeing this lead video in this thread, and seeing how she was unable to determine a general path of travel (on a clear day) is all I need to know that she should NOT be flying. OMG - if you can't even determine a basic heading using the sun as a reference, then you should NEVER be flying a plane. She's so focused on the gizmos and gadgets that the most steady point of reference in the sky (the sun) is being ignored. The sun will ALWAYS be in the east in the morning and the west in the afternoon, and yet on this clear day, I can see from the video that she's flying in circles. The sun was not overhead; it was clearly low enough in the sky that a basic heading can be discerned, yet she just went around in circles. Had it been cloudy or night, that would be different. But she literally got "lost" in the sky, even though the sun went around her time and time again. How she managed to crash is only a resultant magnification of her ineptness.

When I taught my kids to drive, the first things they learned were orientation and direction. Learning to operate the vehicle came AFTER demonstrating they knew how to determine where you're going and where you came from.

This "pilot" was just an accident waiting to happen. We all know people who shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car. Well, this lady didn't belong behind the yoke of a plane, period.

That's my opinion.

 

[billt460]

Supposedly they recovered the Gopro cameras she was using. So it's very likely they have video of the entire accident, beginning to end. That may help in determining the exact cause.... Assuming they weren't damaged too badly.

I read that the airspeed was somewhere around 252 knots at impact. At a 60 degree downward angle.

 

[tbm5690]

I was , very, surprised to learn not long ago that pilots in Canada , even airline pilots, are required to keep an up to date logbook.

I stopped logging my hours in 2000 until I almost got laid off ( again, chapter 11 ) and applied to Emirates airlines ( 2004 ). They said I need to show up for the interview with an updated, certified log book.

I worked like crazy to update my log book and promised I would never let it go again after that ( but was still lazy not totalling every page until last year ).

I eventually turned down the interview and don’t regret it.

You are Canadian I assume? Yeah it's one of those things where legal requirements don't match potential employer requirements.

 

[Just a civilian pilot]

You are Canadian I assume? Yeah it's one of those things where legal requirements don't match potential employer requirements.

Canadian.

 

[Pablo]

When I see influencer my mind thinks bamboozler.

 

[billt460]

When I see influencer my mind thinks bamboozler.

That's pretty much it. They use flying, golfing, or whatever to get noticed. They're not much good at either, but in the case of Jenny Blalock and Paige Spiranac, they both are / were good looking as hell.

As they say, "boys will be boys" and that gets them a tremendous amount of Youtube hits. Which equals monetization, which translates to cash in their pockets. Jenny couldn't fly very well, and Paige couldn't make the cut on the LPGA tour any longer.

But regardless they were making good money plastering themselves all over social media. And at the same time they maintained their dignity over the good looking babes that resort to doing, "Only Fans"..... Which is basically porn.

Paige turned out to be the smarter of the 2, simply because it's pretty hard to get killed recording yourself, while swinging a golf club in a short skirt.

 

[Astro14]

It comes down to unfamiliarity & inexperience of this air craft. Essentially she didn't know how to adapt the plane's controls correctly. This was an older plane & needs more user input & experience on HOW these adjustments work. Probably less about "Flight hours" & more about lack of knowledge on this plane's adjustment requirements.

I think it’s more about poor pilot skills, period.

That airplane is high performance compared with, say, a 172, but it is not a complex airplane compared with many. From Juan Brown’s discussion, this pilot simply didn’t have the instrument skills, and was reliant on the autopilot.

Not really a pilot in other words.

By the way, I have not kept a logbook since 1997. I don’t think I am required to keep one, and my employer keeps one.

I would rather retire than look for another flying job. Perhaps that is short-sighted, but I have other skills, I have been offered other jobs (defense consulting), if I felt that I still needed to work.

 

[Just a civilian pilot]

If I lose my job at this point in my life, I am done with flying. My wife has been retired for a few years.

19 months to go if I pull the plug at 60.

The logbook thing, which is required up here, is for fun at this stage.

If I got bored, I might start my own youtube channel ….”———-, the Airbus guy”

 

[tbm5690]

If I lose my job at this point in my life, I am done with flying. My wife has been retired for a few years.

19 months to go if I pull the plug at 60.

The logbook thing, which is required up here, is for fun at this stage.

If I got bored, I might start my own youtube channel ….”———-, the Airbus guy”

You guys up north can't be PIC past the age of 60, correct? Or is just an Air Canada policy?

 

[Just a civilian pilot]

You guys up north can't be PIC past the age of 60, correct? Or is just an Air Canada policy?

65.

It’s the same with all Canadian airlines. Human rights laws don’t allow companies to have a lower mandatory retirement age.

65 is not a concern, we are constantly evaluated and need to do two medicals per year after 60.

2 simulator evaluations ( 6 months apart ) , an airborne line check once a year and flights monitored by flight ops.

 

[fantastic]

I think it’s more about poor pilot skills, period.

That airplane is high performance compared with, say, a 172, but it is not a complex airplane compared with many. From Juan Brown’s discussion, this pilot simply didn’t have the instrument skills, and was reliant on the autopilot.

Not really a pilot in other words.

By the way, I have not kept a logbook since 1997. I don’t think I am required to keep one, and my employer keeps one.

I would rather retire than look for another flying job. Perhaps that is short-sighted, but I have other skills, I have been offered other jobs (defense consulting), if I felt that I still needed to work.

You would have a better idea about the situation than I would. I don't know much about it other than what's been posted. But yeah inexperience and lack of knowledge I think is what brought this bird down unfortunately.

Retirement just means finding something else to pass our time & perhaps you'll find something else you enjoy doing instead. For me it's limited RV travel.

 

[97prizm]

The above comments about not understanding the aircraft systems are correct. She also seems to have had a fundamental lack of basic airmanship - for example in one video wondering why the airplane won't climb when she didn't add power. This is normally covered in pilot training, one can't even solo without demonstrating those skills, let alone get a pilots license, though her case seems to be an exception.

My impression is that she was pencil-whipped through the training process without really understanding or demonstrating the skills. That's partly but not entirely her fault, instructors and examiners are supposed to know better.

This. I've been told stories about how a number of pilots in Alaska never officially recieved their private pilots license. They "aviated" if you will by learning the ropes from other experienced pilots. I'm not sure of what type of aircraft she had experience with but Beechcraft can be quick and in some cases considered "high performance " depending on which aircraft.

 

[Astro14]

65.

It’s the same with all Canadian airlines. Human rights laws don’t allow companies to have a lower mandatory retirement age.

65 is not a concern, we are constantly evaluated and need to do two medicals per year after 60.

2 simulator evaluations ( 6 months apart ) , an airborne line check once a year and flights monitored by flight ops.

All the same, except we start at 40. Two medicals, one EKG per year. Simulator evaluations, line checks.

 

[dubber09]

To me, whenever I hear 'influencer' it registers as 'narcissist'.

 

[srfdude]

If all her previous vids are deleted, many of the above commenters haven't seen another that was maybe a year or so earlier than the crash. Very scary, she was flying east for a couple hundred miles in nice VFR wx and kept going in circles. She was asking her dad if this or that was right, and of course his advice was just as bad. Very scary, again with the autopilot. For sure if I were her dad I would have secretly sold the plane and expressly forbidden her flying ever again. Certainly wouldn't ever be in the airplane with her.

 

[Just a civilian pilot]

To me, whenever I hear 'influencer' it registers as 'narcissist'.

Bingo. You win.

 

[Pablo]

To me, whenever I hear 'influencer' it registers as 'narcissist'.

Combination of both I suppose

Leverage narcissism into a money maker!

 

[c502cid]

Just asking since I know nothing about flying other then to find my seat and sit in it. What responsibility does her instructor and the person who passed her tests have in this? Any? I'm a big believer in personal responsibility but here is a case of someone who is unqualified to fly. Someone saw this wayyyy before she started shooting videos.

 

[Just a civilian pilot]

Just asking since I know nothing about flying other then to find my seat and sit in it. What responsibility does her instructor and the person who passed her tests have in this? Any? I'm a big believer in personal responsibility but here is a case of someone who is unqualified to fly. Someone saw this wayyyy before she started shooting videos.

The final o.k came from the FAA examiner.

When I have to renew my qualifications in the simulator, I have to satisfy the instructor ( 99% are A320 qualified FO’s ) in order to be recommended for the Transport Canada evaluation on day two by a company check pilot ( qualified A320 Captain who acts on behalf of Transport Canada to sign me off, if they are satisfied ).

Trust me, no normal person wants to fail someone, or tell them that they are not progressing normally, but it has to be done when required.