The belts/tensioner can fail randomly and in this case, the J-series is an interference engine. Chain > belts.
Wow, blown away at Acura dealership service price
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No nooo you joking I hope I was looking into the new Honda pilot with the new V6 I was hoping they went Chain this time smh
I recently replaced the timing belt on my Lexus LS400. The OEM kit cost $350.00 and in addition to the timing belt, it included a water pump, cam shaft and crank seals, tensioner, drive belt, thermostat, gaskets and some other things.
I had to pull the radiator and dismantle the entire front of the engine to do this. In reassembling it took some sealants and all the radiator coolant was replaced. I also replaced the ignition rotors because one had a hairline crack. Since it was my first time doing this in my driveway, it took me 12 hours.
I would guess the book rate at a dealership would be 6 hours and it's not hard to imagine the parts would be double. So, add parts at $700.00, labor at $900.00, coolant at $75.00, shop supplies and sales tax $200.00 and you have $1870.00.
If you do it yourself you can use quality OEM parts and supplies, make sure the job was done right, learn something, and save $1500.00.
I had to pull the radiator and dismantle the entire front of the engine to do this. In reassembling it took some sealants and all the radiator coolant was replaced. I also replaced the ignition rotors because one had a hairline crack. Since it was my first time doing this in my driveway, it took me 12 hours.
I would guess the book rate at a dealership would be 6 hours and it's not hard to imagine the parts would be double. So, add parts at $700.00, labor at $900.00, coolant at $75.00, shop supplies and sales tax $200.00 and you have $1870.00.
If you do it yourself you can use quality OEM parts and supplies, make sure the job was done right, learn something, and save $1500.00.
In my area I'd wager that the Acura dealer is cheaper than Honda. Local Honda store have been crooks since they were Honda-Pontiac-Cadillac.Take it Honda dealership Same parts probably much cheaper . The reason Acura charging so much is because of the fancy coffee machine in the waiting rooms and comfy seats . That cost you know
Similar here. Most of the good private shops near me are about $100/hr.
I was just watching a video of my favorite shop owner with a youtube channel (South Main Auto). His rate is $90/hr. First I heard him mention it in years of watching his channel. He did a ton of work on a 2014 Subaru Outback (new front subframe, suspension parts, engine oil pan, etc.. etc.. and the bill was ~$1700 per him. It was over 8hrs labor.
Negative, Ghostrider, pattern is full. It's even a DOHC engine instead of the SOHC too....still timing belt:
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How often does a timing chain on an extremely mild NA V6 break and fail randomly? I'd wager the timing belt is going to break more, statistically. The difference though is usually the timing chain engines aren't interference so it's not as catastrophic.
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My local Honda dealer (sales and service) are shockingly awful in every way, I have no idea how they're still in business
Apparently Honda dealers in the tri state area don't have to work very hard to please, which is kind of unfortunate
Honda dealership will use the Honda parts from the Honda distribution network.
Independent shops can cut cost by using aftermarket parts, and they tend to charge less for labor.
VW had a TSB and extended warranty on it for the ea888 2.0T's.
And those aftermarket ones are known for failing when people try to cheap out on the J-series. Only use Aisin/Honda, if at all possible.
Not here. Two weeks ago I made an appointment to get my 08 Liberty flashed for a problem with the odometer. The earliest appointment I could get was 12/28, I went into the shop to book it. Other dealers were booked until mid January, another said March. Either they don't want my business or they're booked up. From the looks of it the service departments are that booked up.
Yep, if your small town is lucky, you have a guy running a shop like him.
We have a good one with similar rates, and the fellow who runs it started fixing cars in his garage without a lift! Now 30 years later he still likes fixing peoples cars the right way for a reasonable amount of money. It can be a long wait, but he knows his customers and does some triage as well if its a quick repair to get a one car family back on the road.
I'm familiar with VW shenanigans. I was asking for @tyman to give an example of a honda doing it.
VW has a few, Ford has a few, GM has a few, etc... examples of engines with timing chain problems.
My local indie is $65/hr. The nearest branded dealer (Ford) is $145/hr. Unless it’s warranty work or recalls, the indie will get my money every time- at least I know he and his workers are getting it, rather than $100/hr going right into the pocket of the dealership owner. I also don’t have to worry about the indie using an impact on my oil pan drain bolt, nor promising me he’d “comp’d” his service writer’s mistake only to find a week later they had actually billed my FordPass account for it!
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