How Much To Dicker Down on Price

At that mileage the O2 sensors (there's 2 of them) should be replaced. They can begin to degrade in performance after 60 K miles. And if the O2 sensors get bad enough then the ecu gets the air / fuel mixture wrong and damages the cat. Use OEM if you can get them. There's always low price junk out there.

Inspect the Radiator well. It's probably fine. Usually they are good for 14 years +/- a few years. It probably has 2 coolant temp sensors, one on the rad, one on the engine. They are important for the ecu to know the temperatures so it can trim the fuel right. If you do the rad it's a good time to replace them when the coolant is drained.

Modern radiators use a seal that gets cramped between the core and top, ( , or sides ). Those seals go bad after about 14 years, and then it's time to replace the rad. The coolant is drain and fill with Honda pre-mixed at 10 years or 100,000 miles. Never flush. Flush introduces ions to the system and you can't get all of them out and they cause corrosion.

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High end vehicle dealers like Porsche BMW and Mercedes charge a lot for each hour of any of there mechanics working on any vehicle. And usually the used vehicle department does not get much of a price brake on shop time. Often the used vehicle sales are treated different than new, especially if it's not the brand they sell. Take it for a test ride and while you are testing it, point out all that needs to be done to it. The used salesperson will be thinking of how much shop time cost for everything you point out. Because of the high price of shop time at high end dealers, the used department is quicker to discount price because of things that need done, compared to dealers of lower priced vehicles, or dealers that sell vehicles of the same make as the used vehicle.

High end dealers also tend to list vehicles for higher prices. They know they listed it high. They usually will sell at a lower proper price.
 
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I found a decent 2014 Acura RDX with the 3.5 V6. The engine is 2000 miles(107K miles) past due for the timing belt service and new spark plugs. Just called and researched around and the timing belt service and spark plug replacement runs about $2000. Subtract this off what I was gonna offer for it? From a new car dealer so I'm pretty sure they gave the previous owner half of what it was worth on trade in.
The miles are low for that vehicle. If in good shape and a fair price, it likely will sell itself without you. Don't get hung up on too much dickering.
 
The only thing I cant really substitute that I know of is the diff fluid, and to be honest I haven't worked real hard at it because I can get the Honda/ Acura stuff easily.

Any rated oil is fine, although I have evidence rated oil still allows buildup in a J35 6.
I can use Idemitsu H type or Valvoline max life in the trans although so far I only used the hated DW1.

But the rear end was fun - VTM4, or Dual Pump II? - that was fun finding out, and ordering one and getting the other because someone else thought they could be substituted. VTM4 and IVTM 4 that my 2017 Ridgeline can be both" super handling all wheel drive" but different rear ends and fluids.

There is TONS of conflicting info on the right diff fluid for each year.
The 2016 and newer (not sure up to what years) Honda Pilot's and maybe other similar such as the Ridgeline and later Passports actually have this stamped on the rear differential. Located under the plug. My 2019 Pilot has it.

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So lets say its 2 over min, It could be over 42K over according to the manual.
It's a 10 year old belt on an interference engine.

If it isn't neglected now, at what point does it become that in your mind.


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OP said it was due at 105,000 miles and it now has 107,000 miles on it. Based on that, I'm not going to say it's neglected. And it's pretty safe to say it wasn't driven over 110F or under -20F on the regular for the vehicle in the continental USA. Over at least 10% of the interval would represent neglect. So, about 115,000 miles.
 
I would start at $3,000 then get them to take the $2,000 but you will probably have to walk away and let them call you two weeks later if it hasn't sold. Too bad you can't find about 5 of them that you like and that way you can sit and let your offer's marinate. The problem with car lots is people want instant gratification and feel like the car's a fish that's going to fall off the hook. Most sales managers are stubborn and don't budge that easily. I never liked the best price on the window rules they try to incorporate. Right now is a good time to buy and even January is better especially in cold, snowy regions.
 
OP said it was due at 105,000 miles and it now has 107,000 miles on it. Based on that, I'm not going to say it's neglected. And it's pretty safe to say it wasn't driven over 110F or under -20F on the regular for the vehicle in the continental USA. Over at least 10% of the interval would represent neglect. So, about 115,000 miles.

10% seems fair for some things but not for others. On an interference engine it's an all or nothing gamble.

Nevada, California, Texas and Arizona cars could easily have reached the temp change threshold for a 60K change.

OP, where did the 105 number come from ?

If the dealer scanned the car he should provide a printout and it will tell you when the car itself asked for the belt change, the Honda MM takes driving conditions and temps into account when computing the change interval.
 
Good luck on the price; you have nuthin' to lose.
My guess is you will love that RDX.

As others have said, don't let a couple grand make you lose the deal, if that's the car you want.
How times have changed, that saying used to be a couple of Benjamin's.🥴
 
Would you be willing to pay $2000 over had the work been done? Or is this a one way street?

Over what?

On a commodity vehicle like this...
It depends on the asking price as it relates to current market value for a vehicle maintained as per the book.
Asking market price for an unmaintained, neglected, vehicle is always going to be a one way street.

When dealing with a car dealer the maintenance labels change depending on position.
When selling, uncompleted maintenance is called "deferred".
When buying, uncompleted maintenance is called "neglect".
 
10% seems fair for some things but not for others. On an interference engine it's an all or nothing gamble.

Nevada, California, Texas and Arizona cars could easily have reached the temp change threshold for a 60K change.

OP, where did the 105 number come from ?
That is in the Honda/Acura Owner's manual for a timing belt replacement on a 2014 J35 series engine.

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That is in the Honda/Acura Owner's manual for a timing belt replacement on a 2014 J35 series engine.

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The above is conditional according to the manual I posted earlier.

The MM can call for it sooner for a variety of reasons, or if temp conditions warrant.

Question stands - when did the car call for it?
 
Its at a BMW dealer of all places! Part of the Sonic group of dealers. Gonna go take a good look at it soon and crawl under it. Carfax said it lived its first four years in Illinois. Worried about corrosion it might have. But I'll find out for certain. They are asking $12.5.
IL is a big place. It ranges from KY to Lake Michigan.

Yes, North of I80 is different from Southern IL.

So, be wary, but also use your head. It's an 11 year old vehicle with 100k miles give or take, so 9-10k miles / year.


Where in IL matters a little bit here.
 
Over what?

On a commodity vehicle like this...
It depends on the asking price as it relates to current market value for a vehicle maintained as per the book.
Asking market price for an unmaintained, neglected, vehicle is always going to be a one way street.

When dealing with a car dealer the maintenance labels change depending on position.
When selling, uncompleted maintenance is called "deferred".
When buying, uncompleted maintenance is called "neglect".
OP: “Just called and researched around and the timing belt service and spark plug replacement runs about $2000. Subtract this off what I was gonna offer for it?”

I don’t know what the OP was offering exactly. Just pointing out the other perspective of this argument.
 
OP: “Just called and researched around and the timing belt service and spark plug replacement runs about $2000. Subtract this off what I was gonna offer for it?”

I don’t know what the OP was offering exactly. Just pointing out the other perspective of this argument.

Although I replied to you it isnt specifically directed at you but more an open discussion about the topics of buying an interference engine car with a load of stuff to discuss.

IF we were all at a campfire the discussion would be 100X quicker and easier.
 
Although I replied to you it isnt specifically directed at you but more an open discussion about the topics of buying an interference engine car with a load of stuff to discuss.

IF we were all at a campfire the discussion would be 100X quicker and easier.
True. Two weeks from oak smoke and counting …
(Burning wood when I get home) 🔥
 
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