Turn them inside out and get another day or two.I have reused filters twice on cars and motorcycles several times w/o any problems. Only thing I absolutely use only once before changing are;
Would you ever use the same oil filter more than twice?
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The efficiency looks to be around 99% @ 200 microns. What is the efficiency rating?
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No Thanks. I actually had to do that for a week or so during the Gulf War. I change them q.d
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couldn't tell'ya without looking it up. They are still widely used in performance and many BOAT and Airplane applications.
On a "built" or rebuilt motor....
Yeah definitely change that oil filter every single time. Especially if it a high performance motor with any additional ons for more power.
On a routine regularly run stock motor... It is not a big deal. I have cut oil filters off my car with 2 runs on them. They were perfect and the filter media had nothing visible in the pleats. Human eye can see 70 microns and larger in size.
Yeah definitely change that oil filter every single time. Especially if it a high performance motor with any additional ons for more power.
On a routine regularly run stock motor... It is not a big deal. I have cut oil filters off my car with 2 runs on them. They were perfect and the filter media had nothing visible in the pleats. Human eye can see 70 microns and larger in size.
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Would I use an oil filter longer than two service intervals? No. I understand trying to get good value out of premium and/or extended life filters and I would run a filter for two intervals, but two is as far as I would go, even if the mileage across those two intervals falls far short of the maximum mileage printed on the filter box. My $0.02
Sure, why stop with leaving the “dirty” oil in the oil filter? Maybe just tear down the engine on every oil change, pull the oil pan & valve cover, just hose the whole inside of the engine down with Brakleen?? Wonder how all those old Hondas made it TWO oil changes on cheap filters, with old dino oil left in them?
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Thanks for pointing me to that discussion. I missed it. Lot's of great information.
I would not hesitate to run an Ultra (or any other high mileage rated oil filter) for two OCIs of 5K miles each unless the motor was a sludge monster. Any engine that's had 5K OCIs it's entire life will never be a sludge monster.
It's always fun listening to people come up with excuses to do something half assed. Now I know why my parents smiled and laughed so much when I was a child.
Never buy a Honda and follow their maintenance schedule.
Must be those lazy engineers again.
Yeah, the same one's who "recommend" 0W-16 oil in Toyota's.
Oil filters change interval isn't driven by CAFE ...
Honda's recommendation of changing filters less often than oil is more about saving money for dealers and customers. Many customers will not follow a maintenance schedule that calls for frequent fluid and filter changes at their expense. All the automakers know this and have made adjustments.
That's why you see "lifetime fill" on automatic transmissions that used to have 30,000–mile ATF and filter service intervals. The car will last through the warranty period on the cheaper maintenance schedule, but after that...
My suspicion is that the the life of automatic transmissions in most vehicles has actually declined in recent years because of "lifetime ATF" replacing fluid changes. Salvage yards will tell you more vehicles are junked for trans failures than for engine failures.
Cutting back engine oil filter changes is more of the same warped "logic". The really bright side for the automakers is increased sales of expensive reman engines.
That's why you see "lifetime fill" on automatic transmissions that used to have 30,000–mile ATF and filter service intervals. The car will last through the warranty period on the cheaper maintenance schedule, but after that...
My suspicion is that the the life of automatic transmissions in most vehicles has actually declined in recent years because of "lifetime ATF" replacing fluid changes. Salvage yards will tell you more vehicles are junked for trans failures than for engine failures.
Cutting back engine oil filter changes is more of the same warped "logic". The really bright side for the automakers is increased sales of expensive reman engines.
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What amazes me are the number of people who buy into this twisted "logic", only because it's easier. Not because it's the smart move from a mechanical and maintenance standpoint.
Seriously, it's all about what you're running-$1.50-$2 RA Champ Ecores or Premium Guard cheap filters, sure, every time. OG Ultra, RP, even M1-every other time is fine. I've done the 20,000 mile wire backed Ultra run, I could have ran it FORTY!
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How is “lifetime” ATF related to running an XG10575 for two 5K OCI ?
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