Why Do Vehicles "Wear Out"

Please tell me it’s at least for a new unit. It’s pricey for sure.
That would be a new OEM unit yes.

On the plus side, the Civic was been the best selling car in Canada during the time period when they made the tenth generation so used parts for it should be readily available for quite a while here. Maybe I’m getting worried about nothing here 🤓
 
What would all the vehicle manufactures do, if they built cars that lasted forever? . The price of a car that would never wear out would cost a big fortune. Vehicle manufactures build vehicle they believe will be used in the manner in which they were intended. Not raced at tracks,or overloaded with bags of cement from Home depot. Or run without oil or coolant or trans fluid on a regular basis. Or off roaded, driven thru floods, or jumped off ramps. How many starts will you get out of anyones starter?. Even back in the days of horses and wagons, every so often the wheel fell off or the horse died.,,
If they made cars that lasted forever that would still be a good thing for them because I bet that most original owners don’t get rid of a car because it wears out but simply because they want something else. And when word gets out that a vehicle is reliable it results in big sales. That’s why you see so many Camrys on the roads. People aren’t buying them because they think they’re fun to drive 🤣
 
When I read the title about "wear out" I thought about actual wear, not breakage or rust or other malady that caused a vehicle to be scrapped. So for actual wear I really think most about things like rings, rod bearings, etc. How do the engines I read about with 300,000 to 500,000 miles still have acceptable cylinder compression numbers on all cylinders? Is it just luck or great maintenance or plain excellent design?
All of the above. A great engine will still be trashed if you don't maintain it. On the flip side, a poorly designed engine won't be saved no matter how often you change the oil. I think it's a shame they don't make engines as good as they used to. All throw away junk, just like the lawn mower.
 
If they made cars that lasted forever that would still be a good thing for them because I bet that most original owners don’t get rid of a car because it wears out but simply because they want something else. And when word gets out that a vehicle is reliable it results in big sales. That’s why you see so many Camrys on the roads. People aren’t buying them because they think they’re fun to drive 🤣
Yeah except that they change the design all the time. The resilient camry from 1998 probably isn't the same as a new one today. By the time people figure out it's a reliable design, it's like 10 years old already and they've already went to a different design.
 
What would all the vehicle manufactures do, if they built cars that lasted forever? . The price of a car that would never wear out would cost a big fortune. Vehicle manufactures build vehicle they believe will be used in the manner in which they were intended. Not raced at tracks,or overloaded with bags of cement from Home depot. Or run without oil or coolant or trans fluid on a regular basis. Or off roaded, driven thru floods, or jumped off ramps. How many starts will you get out of anyones starter?. Even back in the days of horses and wagons, every so often the wheel fell off or the horse died.,,
Lots of stuff used to be built to last forever, designed for replacing common wear parts, or seals that would dry out.
TBH as much as the auto manufacturers initially complained about increasing safety and emissions standards, I'm sure now they are lobbying for more changes as it does give the illusion that a car is evolving constantly and really is a disposable and immediately out of date piece of tech once the new model rolls out.
For the key purposes of moving you in reasonable comfort, and efficiency, I doubt many cars now do much of anything better than 2000 Passat turbo diesel? Or a 4 cyl Accord from that era? NVH was pretty much sorted out in large and midsize cars by then, and engines were still pretty simple, but good efficiency. Passive safety has increased a lot since then, although auto death rates have gone up since 2015, so clearly the nut behind the wheel plays a big role.
I guess new cars are starting to be made for easier recycling, but its still a bit wasteful to also make them uneconomical to keep for 20 years too.
But the market wants what it wants, and the marketers and lobbyists try to steer the market to what makes the manufacturers money, so here we are.
 
Lots of stuff used to be built to last forever, designed for replacing common wear parts, or seals that would dry out.
TBH as much as the auto manufacturers initially complained about increasing safety and emissions standards, I'm sure now they are lobbying for more changes as it does give the illusion that a car is evolving constantly and really is a disposable and immediately out of date piece of tech once the new model rolls out.
For the key purposes of moving you in reasonable comfort, and efficiency, I doubt many cars now do much of anything better than 2000 Passat turbo diesel? Or a 4 cyl Accord from that era? NVH was pretty much sorted out in large and midsize cars by then, and engines were still pretty simple, but good efficiency. Passive safety has increased a lot since then, although auto death rates have gone up since 2015, so clearly the nut behind the wheel plays a big role.
I guess new cars are starting to be made for easier recycling, but its still a bit wasteful to also make them uneconomical to keep for 20 years too.
But the market wants what it wants, and the marketers and lobbyists try to steer the market to what makes the manufacturers money, so here we are.
Cars are a lot faster now than before. Even a little Kia forte has quite a bit of get of and go. My friend always drives like a maniac whenever he drives. Can't figure out if it's just because I'm with him or if he tests out the 0-60 time regularly. One of my friends that still acts like a 16 year old at 35 unfortunately. The other thing is I don't think they train techs to take things apart. Just throw a whole new brake booster on there when they could take it apart to replace a $10 seal in 15-20 minutes. It has to be removed regardless, so why add another $300 to the bill by replacing it with a new one?
 
Wear vs Rust vs Maintenance Neglect vs Parts Obsolescence vs Collision vs Electronics. Place your bets and take a chance, especially on a used vehicle. All variables in a multi-variable equation as it relates to the life of a vehicle.

In general, I think if you do good overall preventative maintenance you can significantly reduce some of these variables. But parts obsolescence, collision (caused by other person) and electronics is something that is beyond your control. At some point, the repair cost exceeds your desire to keep the vehicle going. So you sell it cheap or goes to a junkyard.
 
The resilient camry from 1998 probably isn't the same as a new one today. By the time people figure out it's a reliable design, it's like 10 years old already and they've already went to a different design.
You know in 1998, they were complaining about how the cars of the day were basically disposable compared to the old cars "that you could still work on"
 
You know in 1998, they were complaining about how the cars of the day were basically disposable compared to the old cars "that you could still work on"
I'm sure car mfgrs thought about building cars that last forever, then said to themselves if we did that our sales would fall to 0. We wouldn't make anything. Selling cars that anyone can fix would put dealerships out of business. No dealership service needed = no need to be in business. How about we make them last just long enough that people get tired of them, then come back and buy a new car. If building a car that could last forever was a good idea, I'm sure it would have been done years ago. After all driving that model t around would catch all the ladies eyes.,,
 
I'm sure car mfgrs thought about building cars that last forever, then said to themselves if we did that our sales would fall to 0. We wouldn't make anything. Selling cars that anyone can fix would put dealerships out of business. No dealership service needed = no need to be in business. How about we make them last just long enough that people get tired of them, then come back and buy a new car. If building a car that could last forever was a good idea, I'm sure it would have been done years ago. After all driving that model t around would catch all the ladies eyes.,,
Indestructible cars would also cost a lot more, people are highly influenced by the price tags of cars.
 
Not exactly wear or corrosion, but how about a worn out welcome? My needs changed drastically for my daily driver. So, I sold a one-year-old vehicle to reduce/eliminate a payment and bought an older truck. I'm sure needs are what keeps the used car market going.
 
Not exactly wear or corrosion, but how about a worn out welcome? My needs changed drastically for my daily driver. So, I sold a one-year-old vehicle to reduce/eliminate a payment and bought an older truck. I'm sure needs are what keeps the used car market going.
There is that too. Out of college I just needed to get to work and little else. Fast forward 10 years and I've got two kids and a house. A 2 door econobox would have been fine in the first case, something larger for the second. As my kids get ready to fly off, "needs" change again.

Changing cars every 10 years isn't always bad (and you don't have to buy new every 10 in order to change every 10). 10 years, 15 years, pick your number, you get the idea.

Nobody out of college wants to buy a used minivan with hopes of driving it 20 years "just in case they wind up 3 or 4 kids". My apartment was 6 miles from work, my house is 50+ miles.
 
My 2014 Chrysler Town and Country is hitting the “wore out for me” stage.

It’s getting too many wiggles, vibrations and bangs for my taste.

The power doors have minds of their own and we now operate them manually.

Rust is starting to show.

The rear heater box has a ticking that means the blend door is jammed.

So, since I have tired of fixing it, and my wife is tired of me working on it, we will say goodbye at the end of this year.

Our 2009 Camry has 250k ish miles on it and still drives like a new car. The fit and finish is still good and there are no rattles. It’s now my daughters car now and even remains this way with her abuse. My only complaint is the AC isn’t cold enough, even after having it checked by Toyota.

My point? Manufactures build in when their cars wear out. Toyotas are just better quality.

I will add my 2016 Nissan Rogue with 150k miles also drive like new, even on its original transmission. It’s demise was a kiss from a Ford Excursion.
 
In my Honda Civic it has a touchscreen that controls a lot of different things including most of the controls for the climate control. If this screen dies it is not a cheap fix so I envision a lot of 2016+ Civics in the future that get scrapped simply because someone doesn’t want to spend thousands of dollars to fix it. I bet there are a lot of newer cars that end up being scrapped in the coming decades because of a failure of the touchscreen that controls so many things in the car.
They have crashed ones piled up and those units will be available for likely 1/4 to 1/2 price MSRP.
 
They have crashed ones piled up and those units will be available for likely 1/4 to 1/2 price MSRP.
Will they? You can’t pull a gauge cluster out of a wrecked modern car and put it in your car without the dealer reprogramming it. Electronic parts are specific to the car they were installed in.

Even down to the passenger seat in an F150.
 
Rust. Especially in the rust belt. Solution, Get the oil based rust coaings that remain "fluid". stay on the yearly recoating program.
Pro's it should extend the life of the vehicle 4 fold.
Cons everytime the vehicle is worked on it will get on you some. It will soften some rubber eventually. Wipe any rubber components and hoses after the coating is done. Easy. May drip some after application.

Mechanical issues. Engine Transmission etc. Solution Change the fliuds regularly early regardless of the manufacturers recommendations. Fluids-. quality and quantity Check Weekly and add when low fix leaks. Things eventally wear or electrically break. Sealents and gaskets are going to fail eventually. Replace them with a OEM new or OEM manufacturer part ( Example- NTK, Koyo, Denso, NGK NTN, FAG, Felpro, Aisan, Mitsuboshi) or used OEM. Why Because the market is flooded with inferior aftermarket parts. Some of them are as good as oem. Most are not. The differance in price depends on the component and labor. I am 62 years old. I have seen good aftermarket companies , put profet over quality more and more through the years. Im very tired of replacing defective items with non OEM and having to do it again in a year or 2. So what I want you to hear from me to think in circumspect. Your old OEM part lasted 100000 miles. Do you want to get another 75000 miles out of the car Or, you dont want to have to do the same job again? Just pay the extra money and be done with it. If the oem part lasted X than there is a good chance its replacement OEM will to is all. Talk frankly with your mechanic. He will agree i'm certain. Its about whats considered a value. I value reliability more than anything else. Ok enough about that...

Electrical issues Radio, Electronics. Solution Get a replacement from local junk yard, as well or look into OEM. Again aftermarket is a gamble.

Interior issues. Solution If seat is defective repair or replace it. New or used from a junker. Cover it with a nice seat cover. Replace what wrong.

The 2008 Subaru is a example. 191,000 miles. there is zero wrong with it. Everything works. Nothing leaks. Near zero rust. None major at least. Its left us stranded twice. Once because of an aftermarket part failure. Once because of a 180,000 mile part failure. sure a few glitches but we got home.

The car get in an acident. Well if the vehicle is a twisted mess, its probably not financially viable. Have insurance

Most times WE are the reason cars fail. Poor maintenance. From of the lack of understanding what they need to survive. When things fail fix them quickly. Most times one problem will create another. Even if it doesent it makes it less enjoyable to drive and a concern turns into a fear. Fear supposes the urge to send it away. Failure.

Everyones answer will be differant. I myself have AAA for my wife and daughter. We have used it 4 times in the last 8 years. To us, its nice to know that someone is always there to help when its needed. Cars will break, flats, dead batteries. towing to a safe place all priceless.
 
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